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Post by MartinT on Dec 30, 2023 14:33:46 GMT
I don't really understand the point you're making in the 'need to be clear' statement?
Let's set a baseline: all digital data is represented by an analogue waveform. A perfect transmitted squarewave is impossible to achieve. Ergo, that waveform is susceptible to jitter (timebase distortion) and phase noise (phase distortion). This noise is superimposed on the data.
In terms of data integrity, there is no issue as we are well able to ensure it, otherwise our computers wouldn't work. In terms of analogue conversion, that noise will enter the DAC together with the data and impact its conversion accuracy, affecting the quality of the derived analogue signal.
Where the noise has the worst effect is closest to the DAC, that should be clear from the above. However, it is very hard to fully remove it so the more stages are involved in reducing the noise, the better the conversion accuracy. Stages involving high accuracy, low noise clocks (and their power supplies), and 'moats' (like EtherREGEN, U18, fibre optic spans) and good ground plane grounding (grounding boxes) will all help to remove some of the noise.
Whether those stages are in the ethernet transmission, USB, S/PDIF doesn't really matter as long as you keep taking out noise and use components with low inherent noise generation.
I believe the above explains it all. Implementation is where it's at, and a lot more difficult to achieve than the description.
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Post by stelin1 on Feb 6, 2024 4:41:25 GMT
Had a marantz cd63 re clocked, have to say I didn't really notice any difference
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Post by MartinT on Feb 6, 2024 5:32:39 GMT
Had a marantz cd63 re clocked, have to say I didn't really notice any difference Was it an Audiocom, they did a lot of clock installations back in the day? Hearing the effects of a better clock is going to depend on your system's transparency, noise rejection etc., as well as the quality of the clock.
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Post by orange55 on Feb 6, 2024 7:21:18 GMT
Audiocom did my Oppo 203 and both sound and pictures took a big jump. Plus they did other changes alongside the clock.
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Post by John on Feb 6, 2024 7:40:26 GMT
I had audiocom upgrade my nuvista cd player with a clock but what helped the clock was upgrading all the power supplies as well
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Post by MartinT on Feb 6, 2024 8:24:09 GMT
Yes, Audiocom upgraded my Sony SCD-1 with clock and power supply. It made that beast sound really special.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Feb 6, 2024 16:24:54 GMT
Back in the day,l had number of CD players modded with a Trichcord clocks, TBH it always gave an improvement, on my last player,a Meridian CD500 MK2 l also added a Never Connected PSU, and again this improved things further.
I also think technology has moved on a lot since then, and a lot equipment has half decent clocks fitted already.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 6, 2024 17:16:55 GMT
...in line with DACs improving remarkably in the same time period.
My old Ayre C-5xe was no slouch and, unusually, had an insulated OCXO as supplied. The Gustard absolutely creams it in performance, though.
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