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Post by petea on Apr 28, 2023 8:09:24 GMT
I thought this to be quite a though-provoking article and has certainly affected my thoughts about what to do with all of the DVDs I have lurking in boxes (I might even grab a couple of more obscure films that I enjoy soon too before they become 'lost'). So far there has been no sign that music streaming will follow suit, but in some cases artists themselves have pulled content from certain services and who knows what will happen once the accountants at some of the larger music publishers start to look at streaming in detail. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/27/rented-dvds-netflix-streaming-movie-fans-cinema-history |
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 28, 2023 9:19:11 GMT
Streaming will take over 90 odd percent of both IMO
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Post by MartinT on Apr 28, 2023 9:39:06 GMT
I seriously cannot remember the last time we used our Bluray player.
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Post by daytona600 on Apr 28, 2023 15:25:17 GMT
Streaming can be excellent but still beaten by good 4K UHD Bluray player few clients use Kaleidescape video servers look better than most cinemas www.kaleidescape.com/ |
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 28, 2023 15:33:47 GMT
Just bought a Blu-ray of Tár and interested to compare picture quality to Amazon's UHD stream ...
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Post by Tim on Apr 28, 2023 15:43:10 GMT
I'm guessing most here would disagree, but I'd quite like to live in a world with no streaming (film or music) and no Amazon . . . . and I wouldn't mind having a small phone in my pocket which was, well . . . a phone. And that lasted a week or more on a single charge, with a user changeable battery. I'll get my coat  |
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Post by MartinT on Apr 28, 2023 16:39:04 GMT
Mmmmmm...... no.
I very much like having a vast amount of films and music at my disposal, far more than I could ever hope to collect by purchasing them.
...and I like that my phone is a portable computer, too.
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Post by petea on Apr 28, 2023 16:47:40 GMT
Yes, but the thrust of the article is that, with regards to films, older and more obscure ones either are not present or are being dropped from platforms and so the choice is diminishing.
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Post by petea on Apr 28, 2023 16:50:28 GMT
I'm guessing most here would disagree, but I'd quite like to live in a world with no streaming (film or music) and no Amazon . . . . and I wouldn't mind having a small phone in my pocket which was, well . . . a phone. And that lasted a week or more on a single charge, with a user changeable battery. I'll get my coat I could live with that. My UK mobile is an over 20 year old GSM handset and I do have quite a lot of records!  |
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Post by MartinT on Apr 28, 2023 16:52:50 GMT
Yes, but the thrust of the article is that, with regards to films, older and more obscure ones either are not present or are being dropped from platforms and so the choice is diminishing. Agreed, and that is sad, both for video and music availability. I hope that, in time, a service may spring up to offer these obscure titles to those interested. However, my point stands: I have access to orders of magnitude more media now today, through streaming, than I ever could have hoped to purchase in my lifetime. |
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Post by Slinger on Apr 28, 2023 16:58:21 GMT
I'm guessing most here would disagree, but I'd quite like to live in a world with no streaming (film or music) and no Amazon . . . . and I wouldn't mind having a small phone in my pocket which was, well . . . a phone. And that lasted a week or more on a single charge, with a user changeable battery. I'll get my coat I'm defininitely with you about the phone. I can't remember the last time I used mine as anything other than a phone. As to Amazon, I pay for Prime because it's where I do a lot of my shopping, and has nothing to do with their Video services, so that's a a nice bonus as far as I'm concerned, like Amazon Music. Anything I want to watch thet isn't on Amazon? Well, I've got a PC, a very good VPN, and some nifty free software. I do still love Blu-rays/DVDs though, for all the " extras" they come with. As a " for instance" the amount of extras on the Lord Of The Rings (3D) Blu-rays was phenomenal, and I enjoy the films about everything from the colour grading to the model making and SFX, as did Jeanette. One doesn't as far as I'm aware, get that with streaming services. |
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 28, 2023 17:36:37 GMT
There are services like BFI player and MUBI but of course the more esoteric films will appear less and less on Amazon and you won't get them on Netflix.
One thing I certainly don't miss is the regular late return fees we used to get with dvd rental!
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Post by Mr Whippy on Apr 28, 2023 18:00:55 GMT
HMV are reopening their Oxford Street branch after 4 years due to record sales of LP/CD AND (AND) Cassette. Last time LP sales were as high was 1990.
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Post by Tim on Apr 28, 2023 18:13:29 GMT
Yes, but the thrust of the article is that, with regards to films, older and more obscure ones either are not present or are being dropped from platforms and so the choice is diminishing. Exactly and that decline will continue as the financing goes towards a sea of mediocrity for the masses, whilst true art gets strangled out and starts to die - it's happening already. Shorter, faster and dumber is becoming the norm. Streaming is not good for music longevity and streaming will not be good for cinema either. The people and institutions in control of and making decisions on the future of these mediums are not musicians or film directors, they are CEO's of profit driven tech corporations, their decision making is based purely on profit maximisation. Netflix apparently now has very few films older than 10 years and their catalogue has recently been reduced from 6,000 titles to 4,000 - there is a real narrowing of choice. Be careful what you wish for . . . streaming might be convenient, but there is a cost for that convenience. Music streaming does not provide enough income to support the majority of the people who provide the content. |
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 28, 2023 18:40:42 GMT
Yes, but the thrust of the article is that, with regards to films, older and more obscure ones either are not present or are being dropped from platforms and so the choice is diminishing. Exactly and that decline will continue as the financing goes towards a sea of mediocrity for the masses, whilst true art gets strangled out and starts to die - it's happening already. Shorter, faster and dumber is becoming the norm. Streaming is not good for music longevity and streaming will not be good for cinema either. The people and institutions in control of and making decisions on the future of these mediums are not musicians or film directors, they are CEO's of profit driven tech corporations, their decision making is based purely on profit maximisation. Netflix apparently now has very few films older than 10 years and their catalogue has recently been reduced from 6,000 titles to 4,000 - there is a real narrowing of choice. Be careful what you wish for . . . streaming might be convenient, but there is a cost for that convenience. Music streaming does not provide enough income to support the majority of the people who provide the content. Whether physical media or streaming, the music industry is just that, a business. Nothing has changed from that point of view. Remember the days when talented artists got signed up to recording contracts that saddled them with debt for years and years to come? It's not black and white at all. Survival of the fittest, or the most fortunate, call it what you like ... |
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 28, 2023 19:56:28 GMT
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Post by petea on Apr 28, 2023 20:03:37 GMT
That is the exact article that starting all this. It is indeed an insightful read.
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Post by julesd68 on Apr 28, 2023 20:17:14 GMT
Oops, apologies ...
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