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Post by John on Jan 18, 2023 12:45:56 GMT
Even 30mins of listening to find a excerpt I like is not for me
I will listen to a full piece of music most of the time
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Post by Clive on Jan 18, 2023 13:06:11 GMT
My reason for listening to excerpts isn’t usually to find the best parts…as with several others here I mostly listen to whole albums. The way I use excerpts is eg if I listen to 3 minutes of Kind of Blue I have reasonable confidence that I’ll like the whole album. This doesn’t work so well with complete classical works, hence my “concept album” comparison.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 18, 2023 13:50:51 GMT
I might start to put a classical playlist of the good bits, maybe
In a similar vein I have started skipping less than good tracks on CD and streaming
There is so much good stuff. I need to have that in my ears not the bad or the ordinary tracks
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Post by MartinT on Jan 21, 2023 18:45:45 GMT
Thank you everyone for contributing responses, we appreciate and have learned from them.
In response to the desire for shorter 'bite size' chunks as an introduction to the world of classical music, we are launching a new section shortly where we will introduce short snippets for you to listen to and comment on. Stand by for it to appear later tonight.
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Post by speedysteve on Jan 22, 2023 10:48:05 GMT
In my case whilst I can sometimes enjoy classical music but it is quite rare. This makes it hard for me to discuss classical music as I just do not have the depth of interest and passion for this style of music. Hit the nail on the head! |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 22, 2023 11:10:47 GMT
Give our snippets a chance, we'll build up a library for members to dip into.
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Post by Slinger on Jan 22, 2023 14:43:45 GMT
I've told the story before, but [shortened version] we always had a piece of classical music playing at school assembly each morning, along with the title and composer on a large board to the side of the stage. I obviously absorbed them by some weird musical osmosis, because I didn't actively "like" them, but I can still remember what many of them were some 55 years later. The bastards used to put some of them up in their original language too, so it was "Der Fliegende Hollände" not The Flying Dutchman, and so on.
My first classical album was "Pictures At An Exhibition," by Modest Mussorgsky, and the main reason I purchased it was that, as an ELP fan, I wanted to check out where they got some of their source material from. On the 'B' side was Tchaikovsky's Romeo & Juliet, so, two for the price of one. That was my basic path into classical music, and it was (and still is to a large degree) just experimentation. That experimentation has been repaid a thousand-fold with the discovery of so much wonderful music.
Dig into the short bits Martin is providing, and maybe you'll find one you like, which might cause you to investigate other stuff by the same composer, and once you start down the rabbit hole on YouTube, for instance, the world is your lobster my son/daughter/non-binary blood relative/etc.
Maybe you won't like it, and you certainly won't like everything you hear, (some "classical" music still sounds like a bloke carrying a basket-full of cutlery falling down a cast iron spiral staircase, to me) but at least you'll have given yourself the opportunity to experience something new, which is never a bad thing, unless it's pegging I would imagine.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 22, 2023 16:54:08 GMT
My introduction to classical music was in primary school by our particularly enlightened class teacher Mrs Rogers (I never knew her first name). She played us a classical work once a week and some of it stuck with me, particularly Mars from Holst's The Planets (how could music of the God of War not make its mark on an impressionable young lad?) and Vivaldi's Four Seasons.
Watch out for both of these making an appearance sometime soon!
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Post by gelid on Mar 11, 2023 5:25:06 GMT
I voted "Dabble", though it is prob more between that and "Love".
Being the music lover that I am, I never really had an aversion or misgiving toward classical music... it just seemed like is was for a snobby listener, so it was my secret guilty pleasure through my teens and twenties... a music that I hoped I never had to talk about in public for fear of looking foolish.
Being the music snob that I am, quite a few years ago I decided I needed an "educated" opinion on the genre that wasn't based on my highschool band experiences or movie scores. So I joined a classical internet group to see what it was all about.
Turned out like jazz, there are different types of classical music. The epiphany came when I realized the difference between "symphony" orchestra and "chamber" orchestra. I am definitely in the chamber orchestra camp.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 11, 2023 11:24:39 GMT
I think the key barrier to overcoming a reluctance to start listening to classical music is dealing with real or perceived snobbishness.
If you go to a classical concert, you will observe a typical cross-section of society, from the unwashed in jeans and t-shirts to those who dress up for the occasion. Go to a Prom at the Albert Hall and the audience is very much more of the former, but still a mix. The key is to ignore it: you are there for the music. Hearing it live will encourage the enquiring mind to explore recordings and then you'll naturally get sucked in.
Jules and I go to concerts and we are not snobby at all, we're just keen enthusiasts who love the music and enjoy the occasion. There is no need to feel self-conscious at all.
I thoroughly recommend going to a Prom or two. I believe some of the concerts are held in Birmingham and Manchester? The CBSO and Halle are two very accomplished orchestras worth seeing.
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Post by Mr Whippy on Mar 11, 2023 11:43:22 GMT
The REAL answer? We're just peasants, man...
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 11, 2023 11:47:05 GMT
I can only echo everything that Martin has said. The vast majority of classical concerts I go to have a diverse audience and they're pretty relaxed affairs with no real sense of formality. I think a lot of this issue is more perceived than real. I'd challenge anyone to come to a concert with me and feel uncomfortable actually! The bar prices can be quite intimidating though ...   |
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Post by MartinT on Mar 11, 2023 12:14:21 GMT
The bar prices can be quite intimidating though ... Mind you, when we go to the Vengerov at the Albert Hall in April, we'll be hitting a pub in Kensington. You expect the prices to drop? It's my shout, too. |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 11, 2023 12:56:22 GMT
The bar prices can be quite intimidating though ... Mind you, when we go to the Vengerov at the Albert Hall in April, we'll be hitting a pub in Kensington. You expect the prices to drop? It's my shout, too. Ah this is indeed most capital news! I know a Kensington wine bar where you can expect your funds to be drunk through in short order ...  |
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Post by Slinger on Mar 11, 2023 14:50:39 GMT
Youse lot R all snobs wiv yor classical musiok and your Kennington Oval winey bars. |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 11, 2023 15:06:26 GMT
Youse lot R all snobs wiv yor classical musiok and your Kennington Oval winey bars. Yeah u is not invited Porl coz u is not proper posh like wot i iz fam ... |
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Post by Slinger on Mar 11, 2023 15:45:01 GMT
Geezer, I'm well not posh, innit. Am I bovvered? Is my face bovvered? Not bovvered, mate.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 11, 2023 16:21:16 GMT
I getta discount 4 bein' normawl, bro, and I 'ave a letter 4 it.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 11, 2023 16:57:05 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Mar 11, 2023 17:06:12 GMT
I think we've just debunked classical snobbishness |
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