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Post by stellabagpuss on Apr 26, 2023 18:21:59 GMT
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Post by atoz on Apr 26, 2023 18:43:01 GMT
I paid that for 1 metre...Digikey
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Post by stellabagpuss on Apr 26, 2023 19:47:24 GMT
TBH You could spend a lifetime swapping cables in and out,but l feel it's good vfm if you diy,without breaking the bank
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Post by HD Music & Test on Apr 27, 2023 14:43:27 GMT
I feel like you chaps might like some insight to Leo Bodnar himself, he is a podcast with one of my mentors Prof. Eric Bogatin
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Post by Slinger on Apr 27, 2023 15:53:12 GMT
This is from a friend in the SDR (Software Defined Radio) community - "Leo Bodnar is a God in the amateur radio world. He makes components that tap the received radio spectrum and send it to an SDR so operators can see band activity as a waterfall display. Amazing."
SDR was the field the clock was originally designed for, which is why, I assume, it has 50 Ohm impedance BNC connectors which are more the norm with SDR gear as opposed to the usual 75 Ohm standard in audio.
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 27, 2023 16:14:21 GMT
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Post by stellabagpuss on Apr 27, 2023 18:06:50 GMT
This is from a friend in the SDR (Software Defined Radio) community - " Leo Bodnar is a God in the amateur radio world. He makes components that tap the received radio spectrum and send it to an SDR so operators can see band activity as a waterfall display. Amazing." SDR was the field the clock was originally designed for, which is why, I assume, it has 50 Ohm impedance BNC connectors which are more the norm with SDR gear as opposed to the usual 75 Ohm standard in audio. I agree ....l own or have owned many SDR over the years,due to one of my old hobbies. Thankfully...the R26 is 50 ohms so it's plane sailing. Sadly LB biggest hurdle is that is aimed at the Radio Hamm World. I occasionally recommend the LB on FB and a lot of Audiophiles have no concept of GPS. l often send them to our TAS link for re-education, as most think it's a joke, but slowly the word is getting out. l think if LB did a slight rebadge, added a manual sleep mode button and aimed it at Audiophiles they would do really well. |
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Post by stellabagpuss on Apr 27, 2023 18:08:04 GMT
I feel like you chaps might like some insight to Leo Bodnar himself, he is a podcast with one of my mentors Prof. Eric Bogatin
Do you have a link Tony? |
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Post by Clive on Apr 27, 2023 18:17:35 GMT
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Post by stellabagpuss on Apr 27, 2023 18:49:19 GMT
Cheers Clive, didn't notice it was embedded Dooh
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Post by atoz on Apr 27, 2023 18:54:56 GMT
This is from a friend in the SDR (Software Defined Radio) community - " Leo Bodnar is a God in the amateur radio world. He makes components that tap the received radio spectrum and send it to an SDR so operators can see band activity as a waterfall display. Amazing." SDR was the field the clock was originally designed for, which is why, I assume, it has 50 Ohm impedance BNC connectors which are more the norm with SDR gear as opposed to the usual 75 Ohm standard in audio. I agree ....l own or have owned many SDR over the years,due to one of my old hobbies. Thankfully...the R26 is 50 ohms so it's plane sailing. Sadly LB biggest hurdle is that is aimed at the Radio Hamm World. I occasionally recommend the LB on FB and a lot of Audiophiles have no concept of GPS. l often send them to our TAS link for re-education, as most think it's a joke, but slowly the word is getting out. l think if LB did a slight rebadge, added a manual sleep mode button and aimed it at Audiophiles they would do really well. I myself thought the antenna and GPS was only used for the update we do every 4 weeks. I was surprised to find the antenna had to be attached all the time for gps ,I still don't get it. |
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Post by John on Apr 27, 2023 19:00:14 GMT
I have also encouraged a few people to try the Leo Bodnar Precision Clock and visit here.
I had few people think I am talking rubbish including one YouTube reviewer. Talk about a lack of a open mind.
These days I think their loss if they don't want to try
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Post by Clive on Apr 27, 2023 19:01:27 GMT
I agree ....l own or have owned many SDR over the years,due to one of my old hobbies. Thankfully...the R26 is 50 ohms so it's plane sailing. Sadly LB biggest hurdle is that is aimed at the Radio Hamm World. I occasionally recommend the LB on FB and a lot of Audiophiles have no concept of GPS. l often send them to our TAS link for re-education, as most think it's a joke, but slowly the word is getting out. l think if LB did a slight rebadge, added a manual sleep mode button and aimed it at Audiophiles they would do really well. I myself thought the antenna and GPS was only used for the update we do every 4 weeks. I was surprised to find the antenna had to be attached all the time for gps ,I still don't get it. What I’ve gleaned is that the gps signal gets an accurate clock sync from the mega accurate caesium clocks in the satellites. This is for longer term clock accuracy. |
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Post by atoz on Apr 27, 2023 19:09:52 GMT
Cheers Clive, thanks for that.
I suppose I just thought the gps was more beneficial to ham radio guy's and not hifi, as we updating every 4 weeks.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Apr 27, 2023 19:14:45 GMT
l'm sure someone could explain better, but there are hundreds of GPS satellites in the air, l believe it uses the GPS signal combined with a on board clock for accuracy, and possibly its the accuracy of the clock used in a GPS satellite is a major factor.
l emailed LB about the re tuning, but l couldn't prize a answer out of them. l asked them if the LB is powered down, does it automatically re tune, but they never replied. l actually believe powering the LB on and off causes a retune,after all, l wouldn't be able to use the clock.The re tuning may be applicable if you leave your clock permanently on...Of course l could be wrong...but l guess you understand my logic.
I'm sure Tony could give brief explanation, he has the brains for it.
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Post by Tobias on Apr 27, 2023 19:25:18 GMT
Hmm, now I manage to find, read and understand this thread, after about a week here. It got me very excited!!! I will buy a DAC, at some point, and I have looked at the R26 as an alternative. Are there any cheaper DAC alternatives that could be worth a try with this Clock also, you think? (except for the X16pro mentioned) I want a DAC with more lifelike sound (is it called "tamber" in english?) and that can take the edges of the treble, which is a bit spicy/harsh today. (at least it should not be the opposite) Any advice is much appreciated as long as I can play around with a cheap external clock also . More expensive DAC options could also be interesting, but not much... Edit: i will probably use it also for TV sound and I have heard that some R2R dac´s can add a delay which can be annoying for TV sound. Does anyone know how the R26 is in that regard? (sorry, many DAC questions now in a clock thread...) |
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Post by atoz on Apr 27, 2023 19:32:36 GMT
"believe it uses the GPS signal combined with a on board clock for accuracy"
So if one is able to update without disconnecting the LB from power...via a laptop and then set LB to sleep mode, will LB no longer use Gps, while in sleep mode?
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Post by John on Apr 27, 2023 19:35:36 GMT
Each DAC has it own flavour and I guess we all love what we have.
From what you saying the R26 or A26 might be a good fit for you
All will benefit from an external clock including the X26 .
Adding a external clock to the 26 range
The Leo Bodnar is a serious step up in performance
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Post by stellabagpuss on Apr 27, 2023 19:40:07 GMT
Excellent question Tobias... The R26 sounds superb with the LB, and l believe the A26 responds well as well.
lt's a tough one in regards to giving a list of DACs, as the LB is only starting to gather ground in Audiophiles minds, what l can say,it's cheap and vfm.
And the reason l sold my AfterDark Clock, as the LB simply sounded better with the R26, don't get wrong the AfterDark improved the R26, but the LB gave a ridiculous in slight in recordings,and precision that you didn't know was on recordings.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Apr 27, 2023 19:46:47 GMT
"believe it uses the GPS signal combined with a on board clock for accuracy" So if one is able to update without disconnecting the LB from power...via a laptop and then set LB to sleep mode, will LB no longer use Gps, while in sleep mode? I believe it still needs the GPS signal, the sleep mode, just turns off the microprocessor, which l believe is not linked to the GPS signal, probably linked to the actually the software part. |
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