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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 6, 2024 22:10:35 GMT
Amazing, thank you so much Damien! I did read the whole thread but failed to grasp some aspects of it's usuage. You've explained things brilliantly. Your welcome... myself and other TAS members have done plenty of tweeking, so if your stuck,just ask Damien |
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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 7, 2024 10:15:49 GMT
Hello all 😊 I was thinking of buying one of these for my Gustard R26. Someone mentioned you have to recalibrate every 3 to 4 weeks? Why is that and is this really necessary? Also how does the process work? Thank you for your help 😊 Correction and sorry for miss information. Look like when the LB enters Sleep Mode, it won't retune. The benefit of the new Auto Sleep mode, you can now power the unit down, without having to keep getting the laptop out everytime to re enter Sleep mode,or you end up leaving it powered up all of the time. l was hoping it would retune on powering back up, but it looks like it dosent,so sorry for the confusion. So we are back to getting the laptop back out every 3 to 4 weeks. |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 7, 2024 11:14:14 GMT
Hello all 😊 I was thinking of buying one of these for my Gustard R26. Someone mentioned you have to recalibrate every 3 to 4 weeks? Why is that and is this really necessary? Also how does the process work? Thank you for your help 😊 Correction and sorry for miss information. Look like when the LB enters Sleep Mode, it won't retune. The benefit of the new Auto Sleep mode, you can now power the unit down, without having to keep getting the laptop out everytime to re enter Sleep mode,or you end up leaving it powered up all of the time. l was hoping it would retune on powering back up, but it looks like it dosent,so sorry for the confusion. So we are back to getting the laptop back out every 3 to 4 weeks. I'm hoping my system will be back online soon and will then consider an external clock - I will look to see if there are some good user friendly options to the LB as these kind of niggles are a pita for me and wouldn't be leaving it powered up. Or maybe the LB is much superior and worth the hassle ... |
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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 7, 2024 12:44:32 GMT
Worth the hassle....yes. But l think we also have to remember, the LB was never intended for Audiophiles.
Hopefully they remember us Audiophiles on the new clock design.
Money wise a bargain.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 7, 2024 13:03:59 GMT
and wouldn't be leaving it powered up. Any kind of external clock really needs to be left powered up. Something to think about. |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 7, 2024 13:22:03 GMT
and wouldn't be leaving it powered up. Any kind of external clock really needs to be left powered up. Something to think about. Not happening with me. |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 7, 2024 13:25:14 GMT
Worth the hassle....yes. But l think we also have to remember, the LB was never intended for Audiophiles. Hopefully they remember us Audiophiles on the new clock design. Money wise a bargain. Indeed but I will see what options there are - I'm sure I won't want to pay an "audiophile" price tag ... |
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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 7, 2024 13:28:04 GMT
and wouldn't be leaving it powered up. Any kind of external clock really needs to be left powered up. Something to think about. Indeed, and that's what most users do... lts the hassle of recalibration or tuning is the bug bear for most users now. |
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Post by bencat on Mar 7, 2024 14:30:40 GMT
If you leave the LB on all the time (which I do) once it has been set and calibrated and set to auto sleep as it is staying on does it really need to be recalibrated ?
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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 7, 2024 15:22:52 GMT
If you leave the LB on all the time (which I do) once it has been set and calibrated and set to auto sleep as it is staying on does it really need to be recalibrated ? Yes it need to be retuned or recalibrate with the satellites. It won't sound awful, but it loses its precision slightly. |
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Post by HD Music & Test on Mar 7, 2024 16:02:13 GMT
I will be honest, ALL of my current clocks that I use for audio and in the test lab are left on 24/7 any oxco by its very nature is temprature controlled as in it needs to reach a certain temprature to perform optimumly. Some clocks will take up to 60 minutes to reach equalibrum, some can have a stable signal within 15 minutes (dependant on oven and osciallator enviroment). Some of reference atomic clocks can take days to settle lol
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Post by kaufman on Mar 7, 2024 17:53:01 GMT
Hello all 😊 I was thinking of buying one of these for my Gustard R26. Someone mentioned you have to recalibrate every 3 to 4 weeks? Why is that and is this really necessary? Also how does the process work? Thank you for your help 😊 Correction and sorry for miss information. Look like when the LB enters Sleep Mode, it won't retune. The benefit of the new Auto Sleep mode, you can now power the unit down, without having to keep getting the laptop out everytime to re enter Sleep mode,or you end up leaving it powered up all of the time. l was hoping it would retune on powering back up, but it looks like it dosent,so sorry for the confusion. So we are back to getting the laptop back out every 3 to 4 weeks. The only one I've seen at a reasonable price point compared to the LB is the Aune XC1 which has a OCXO clock. www.aune-store.com/en/aune-xc1-common-audio-clock_110113_1090Anyone had any experience with their products and do they think it would outperform the LB one? |
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Post by MartinT on Mar 7, 2024 18:01:05 GMT
I've only seen the Aune referenced in Head-Fi and I think there is not enough experience of it yet.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 7, 2024 19:30:18 GMT
Correction and sorry for miss information. Look like when the LB enters Sleep Mode, it won't retune. The benefit of the new Auto Sleep mode, you can now power the unit down, without having to keep getting the laptop out everytime to re enter Sleep mode,or you end up leaving it powered up all of the time. l was hoping it would retune on powering back up, but it looks like it dosent,so sorry for the confusion. So we are back to getting the laptop back out every 3 to 4 weeks. The only one I've seen at a reasonable price point compared to the LB is the Aune XC1 which has a OCXO clock. www.aune-store.com/en/aune-xc1-common-audio-clock_110113_1090Anyone had any experience with their products and do they think it would outperform the LB one? Just as Martin has mentioned, it's so new there isn't many users yet. Personally .... I wouldn't even consider it, the amount of LB users and R26 user is pretty large. Even with it's miner retuning issue on a Laptop, you will still find users putting up with it, as firstly it will totally transform the R26, secondly for its price it's a bargain. Tony "HD Music & Test" is really experience in clocks, he collects them... if anyone will know, he will. |
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Post by kaufman on Mar 7, 2024 20:08:59 GMT
Look forward to Tony's thoughts on the whether the Aune clock looks decent for the money 😊
Looks like they've attempted to use a more audio approach by using better capacitors and addressing power supply possibly?
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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 7, 2024 20:58:16 GMT
Look forward to Tony's thoughts on the whether the Aune clock looks decent for the money 😊 Looks like they've attempted to use a more audio approach by using better capacitors and addressing power supply possibly? It's worth keeping in mind that you can play around with power supplies with the LB. lt's really down to your budget, l've recently stumbled upon a £50 Chinese LPS that uses a R core transformer, when connected to the LB it out performs many more expensive psu's, and you can push it further using a Farad Super 3,which are more costly. Clocks are really sensitive to there power supplies and the Coax used. |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 7, 2024 22:30:55 GMT
Look forward to Tony's thoughts on the whether the Aune clock looks decent for the money 😊 Looks like they've attempted to use a more audio approach by using better capacitors and addressing power supply possibly? I couldn't find any user reviews of the Aune, only this YouTube video - |
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Post by bencat on Mar 15, 2024 11:07:43 GMT
Been a bit fraught the last few days with other things like life getting in the way . So now I have been able to download and set up the LB control software with the update . Reset my clock and ticked the auto sleep function . Works well and I think the sound is a little more focused and quieter but not that sure if that is just me . Like the idea as my clock is on 24/7 that it is using less power and it has certainly not made the music sound any worse .
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Post by stellabagpuss on Mar 15, 2024 12:47:11 GMT
Been a bit fraught the last few days with other things like life getting in the way . So now I have been able to download and set up the LB control software with the update . Reset my clock and ticked the auto sleep function . Works well and I think the sound is a little more focused and quieter but not that sure if that is just me . Like the idea as my clock is on 24/7 that it is using less power and it has certainly not made the music sound any worse . What PSU voltage and make are you using, and Coax. If you revisted in two or three weeks time,and reset. You'll find you will experience the improvement again,it's slight but noticeable. |
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Post by bencat on Mar 15, 2024 13:34:19 GMT
Sadly unlike the technically gifted here I do not have the skills to alter the voyage on the power supply . I am using a 12v GeekPulse LPSU made for their DAC .Reading the advice 8.25 v is the sweet spot but not able to alter the fact be I have so unless I come across a cheap alternative it will have to do for now . Not using any cable I have a bnc connector going direct in to a 50 Ohm through transformer .
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