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Post by stellabagpuss on Jan 18, 2024 15:00:00 GMT
Thanks for the update Tony, guess the bottom line, is the actual price and date on the new LB.
l am hoping in be able to purchase one mid year,if it gets released then.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Feb 10, 2024 11:23:28 GMT
Got all excited this morning, a sales flyer from LB...
Excitement over, just a flyer for there time lapse unit.
lt's seems to be taking a long time for news on the new clock, or the promised firmware update.
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Post by bencat on Feb 13, 2024 11:36:51 GMT
Sent another e-mail to Simon at Leo Bodnar over the weekend asking if there was any update on the firmware fix to allow a permanent sleep mode setting . He answered today that it was still on there to do list but things were very busy with other products . No details but i would suppose this is the new clock .
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 13, 2024 17:30:09 GMT
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Post by stellabagpuss on Feb 13, 2024 19:41:07 GMT
Have I missed something ? I don't see anything..  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 13, 2024 21:16:37 GMT
Have I missed something ? I don't see anything.. How should I put it Er, they are cleverer than me Some very clever bunnies there |
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Post by ms142 on Feb 22, 2024 13:47:30 GMT
Changing topic back to experience with the clock on Gustard DAC, I want to share my slightly surprising experience:
I got the LB for a Gustard A26. The power supplies I tried included a 5V (Geek Pulse LPS), 12V (Geek Pulse LPS), 12V (iPower X, one old and one new that somehow sounded different). The cables I tried included a LMR400 BNC-BNC from Aliexpress and a replacement of the internal cable (RG316) that goes directly from MCX to BNC male, shielded with silver-plated copper mesh. With all these combinations, I wasn't particularly impressed with the results, and in fact I was thinking about selling the A26 to get a R26, as most folks tested their LB clocks on R26.
When I was about to give up, I remember this thread mentioned the LB clock sounds better at about 8V. I finally put in a $11 adapter I used for my TV box that outputs 7.5V. All of a sudden, the sound snapped into focus (I use both USB and LAN inputs and I always evaluate with both.) Encouraged by the results, I bought a Meanwell 7.5V SMPS that has the lowest ripple voltage in Meanwell's catalog (SGA12U07), which is also only about $13. With it I finally heard the sensation some people said about the LB clock - it really is more "analog", for a lack of a better word. I would think that the quality to the power supply (LPS, iFI noise-cancelling) would be more important than the voltage, but I couldn't have been more wrong!
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Post by John on Feb 22, 2024 14:10:17 GMT
I am glad you stayed with it. Power supplies to external clocks are critical
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Post by MartinT on Feb 22, 2024 14:33:24 GMT
I don't use a Leo Bodnar clock, but my results when using power supplies with my two AfterDark clocks certainly confirm that power supply quality is absolutely critical to clock performance. The two Uptone JS-2 power supplies I bought caused such an incredible uplift in sound quality that I was seriously taken aback at what I was hearing.
Don't skimp on the power supply. That Meanwell SMPS may work well for an SMPS, but I guarantee you could do even better.
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Post by stellabagpuss on Feb 22, 2024 15:23:42 GMT
Changing topic back to experience with the clock on Gustard DAC, I want to share my slightly surprising experience: I got the LB for a Gustard A26. The power supplies I tried included a 5V (Geek Pulse LPS), 12V (Geek Pulse LPS), 12V (iPower X, one old and one new that somehow sounded different). The cables I tried included a LMR400 BNC-BNC from Aliexpress and a replacement of the internal cable (RG316) that goes directly from MCX to BNC male, shielded with silver-plated copper mesh. With all these combinations, I wasn't particularly impressed with the results, and in fact I was thinking about selling the A26 to get a R26, as most folks tested their LB clocks on R26. When I was about to give up, I remember this thread mentioned the LB clock sounds better at about 8V. I finally put in a $11 adapter I used for my TV box that outputs 7.5V. All of a sudden, the sound snapped into focus (I use both USB and LAN inputs and I always evaluate with both.) Encouraged by the results, I bought a Meanwell 7.5V SMPS that has the lowest ripple voltage in Meanwell's catalog (SGA12U07), which is also only about $13. With it I finally heard the sensation some people said about the LB clock - it really is more "analog", for a lack of a better word. I would think that the quality to the power supply (LPS, iFI noise-cancelling) would be more important than the voltage, but I couldn't have been more wrong! What a funny coincidence... Atoz and myself are currently testing 7.5v DC ,we discovered that a Sony PlayStation One has the correct voltage, there's plenty used on ebay, l plan to report back over the weekend on my views,when l get a chance, Atoz is currently using his,so hopefully he can report back. Like you guys say.. You can do better, but at a cost. MCRU offer a 7.5v psu, and l sure Tony can offer something? Another thought l had, is a 9volt Zero Zone 01 psu, but l don't know if you could adjust down to 7.5v ? It's also funny, if you check back on some of my comments, I stated the LB isn't that fussy on the PSU front, but that was from a 5v only, l only found slight differences from the 3 of the ifi psu,so that's the cheap black one,to power x ,to Elite, and a 5v Zero Zone. Perhaps the voltage is the bigger factor than noise on making the LB sing? |
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Post by MartinT on Feb 22, 2024 15:49:13 GMT
Perhaps the voltage is the bigger factor than noise on making the LB sing? In the AfterDark case, it's definitely noise as the voltage remained the same at 12V. |
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Post by HD Music & Test on Feb 22, 2024 15:50:45 GMT
For the LB I run all the psu I make for it @ 8.25Vdc, it only draws around 250mA max so an ultra low noise ripple is where these clock are at.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 22, 2024 15:54:33 GMT
in fact I was thinking about selling the A26 to get a R26, as most folks tested their LB clocks on R26. What is your impression of the A26 now you have a better performance from the LB? |
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Post by mattspl on Feb 22, 2024 17:57:08 GMT
Has anybody experimented with slight voltage changes for their routers, like you are doing with the LB Clock?
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Post by HD Music & Test on Feb 22, 2024 18:06:42 GMT
Depends on the router imho, my demo room model likes 12.45Vdc and it pulls 1.2 amps at start up and settles down to around 750mA when in use.
I have measured around 2.8 amps on some units at start up, way to many models and brands to be generic with imho
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Post by stellabagpuss on Feb 22, 2024 18:22:43 GMT
Has anybody experimented with slight voltage changes for their routers, like you are doing with the LB Clock? l'd imagine every component has a sweet spot voltage wise. I guess a case of experimenting on the particular model Matt, just like what's out come of testing the LB. |
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Post by atoz on Feb 22, 2024 18:39:18 GMT
Changing topic back to experience with the clock on Gustard DAC, I want to share my slightly surprising experience: I got the LB for a Gustard A26. The power supplies I tried included a 5V (Geek Pulse LPS), 12V (Geek Pulse LPS), 12V (iPower X, one old and one new that somehow sounded different). The cables I tried included a LMR400 BNC-BNC from Aliexpress and a replacement of the internal cable (RG316) that goes directly from MCX to BNC male, shielded with silver-plated copper mesh. With all these combinations, I wasn't particularly impressed with the results, and in fact I was thinking about selling the A26 to get a R26, as most folks tested their LB clocks on R26. When I was about to give up, I remember this thread mentioned the LB clock sounds better at about 8V. I finally put in a $11 adapter I used for my TV box that outputs 7.5V. All of a sudden, the sound snapped into focus (I use both USB and LAN inputs and I always evaluate with both.) Encouraged by the results, I bought a Meanwell 7.5V SMPS that has the lowest ripple voltage in Meanwell's catalog (SGA12U07), which is also only about $13. With it I finally heard the sensation some people said about the LB clock - it really is more "analog", for a lack of a better word. I would think that the quality to the power supply (LPS, iFI noise-cancelling) would be more important than the voltage, but I couldn't have been more wrong! What a funny coincidence... Atoz and myself are currently testing 7.5v DC ,we discovered that a Sony PlayStation One has the correct voltage, there's plenty used on ebay, l plan to report back over the weekend on my views,when l get a chance, Atoz is currently using his,so hopefully he can report back. Like you guys say.. You can do better, but at a cost. MCRU offer a 7.5v psu, and l sure Tony can offer something? Another thought l had, is a 9volt Zero Zone 01 psu, but l don't know if you could adjust down to 7.5v ? It's also funny, if you check back on some of my comments, I stated the LB isn't that fussy on the PSU front, but that was from a 5v only, l only found slight differences from the 3 of the ifi psu,so that's the cheap black one,to power x ,to Elite, and a 5v Zero Zone. Perhaps the voltage is the bigger factor than noise on making the LB sing? I did buy and attached the Sony PS one psu that Damien mentioned, I haven't thought anymore about it tbh,so it can't be any worst than the cheap chinese LPS (not a Zerozone) that was there before and i haven't had time to swop about to test if one was better than other.
I have made so many changes to my set up in the last week with the help of Daimen and another shout out to Tim, I got a server set up ,so brix gigabyte, HD,Wiim streamer and various LPS and IFI power supplies means I am still getting use to the sound of my system. Damien will be a better test for the PS one psu when he gets his.
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Post by ms142 on Feb 24, 2024 20:56:37 GMT
in fact I was thinking about selling the A26 to get a R26, as most folks tested their LB clocks on R26. What is your impression of the A26 now you have a better performance from the LB? My only reference point in the same price category would be R26 without clock, which I heard briefly in my system. One thing I liked about R26 is that with LAN input (my USB is without DDC so it’s inferior to LAN) I heard a kind of “analog” smoothness that I never experienced in cheaper DACs. I put quotation around “analog” because I’ve never heard a hi-end vinyl setup - it’s just my adjective for a less grainy, more relaxing quality behind all instrument timbre. With the A26, while it sounded fine in stock form, I didn’t experience this analog quality until I put in the LB clock at 7.5V. Not that the presentation is the same as R26, the difference with which I can’t tell without side by side comparison anyway, but I’d just say it’s both detailed and non-fatiguing, definitely a keeper for me. |
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Post by stellabagpuss on Feb 24, 2024 23:05:43 GMT
Okay... A update... Firstly can you believe my luck... Not only was my PlayStation 1 psu late being shipped, but arrived DOA.... WTF. But not all is lost.. Would you believe it, l discovered a cheap 9v Chinese linear in my draw.  Chinese LPS at 8.25v DC by Damien Read, on Flickr So l opened it up, are turned the variable resistor down to Tony's suggested 8.25v DC. I can already see some mods l can do in the psu, but l'll leave that for my Blog. Okay.... All Hail God ..sorry Tony... The difference is pretty vast.. l've been playing various tracks, and the difference is pretty big... Music has more dynamic range, prat and clarity.. amazing really. l am playing the Hi Res version of Jellyfish album Split Milk... l don't think l have heard it sound so good period,and of late l been playing this album so it's a noticeable improvement. As Mr Cowell would say " lt's a yes from me" Damien |
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Post by HD Music & Test on Feb 25, 2024 9:42:02 GMT
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