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Post by julesd68 on Jun 27, 2022 12:05:46 GMT
So far I have managed to avoid weight gain with revised diet based on most aspects of my intermittent fasting - like yourself avoiding heavy carbs and sugar etc
The only significant exercise I do is walking because I enjoy it. I'm allergic to gyms / running / swimming etc - makes all the difference to find exercise you enjoy. I have a twice daily floor exercise routine that includes weights but that's all geared towards conditioning my lower back with its herniated disc.
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Post by speedysteve on Jun 27, 2022 14:40:57 GMT
Yeah, they are not going to advertise that the process of making yummy butter like stuff out of relatively harmless ingredients, turns it into killer shit🙂 Do you remember Terry Wogan endlessly advertising Flora! Lower your cholesterol, yeah maybe a bit verses full salty butter, but hey, see what the other side affects are! Marketing at its finest. Never did Terry any harm... I changed from stuff that said "Hydrogenated" some years back. What are we looking for now if not Hydrogenated ? Caveat emptor. If it is processed / made in a factory be very critical of it and eat minimal amounts.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 27, 2022 15:01:23 GMT
Which leaves young Slinger and I looking for a spread for toast and other
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Post by petea on Jun 27, 2022 15:07:59 GMT
If you cut out the bread and crumpets, the problem will go away!
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 27, 2022 15:09:58 GMT
Difficult for me and my love of toast
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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2022 15:16:32 GMT
Difficult for me and my love of toast Same here, as I explained. Toast, crumpets, and sandwiches in general form a part of my "normal" diet. I'm not going to do anything though, until I've spoken to my practice nurse, and have received her wisdom. Obviously I'll plan to work with her, so buggering off at a tangent now will do me no good.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 27, 2022 15:43:37 GMT
I used to be able to eat a silly amount of toast, butter & marmalade first thing - glad I packed it in, for the sugar as much as the carbs .
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 27, 2022 16:01:19 GMT
Pure Spread could be the least worst
Vegetable Fat Spread (54%) with 32% Sunflower Oil Free from nasties* *Free from artificial flavours, colours & preservatives 65% less saturated fat than butter** **Butter contains 54g per 100g We've been proudly pure since 1994. RSPO - We Use Certified Sustainable Palm Oil, 2-0868-18-100-00 Spread, Cook, Bake Made from Honest, Plant Based Ingredients Dairy, Gluten and Lactose Free High in Omega 3 Source of Vitamins A, D, E & B12 Free from GM Ingredients & Hydrogenated Fats Suitable for vegans Pack size: 500G High in Omega 3 Source of Vitamins A, D, E & B12 Information Ingredients Vegetable Oils (Sunflower (32%), Palm, Linseed), Water, Salt (0.75%), Natural Flavouring, Vitamin E, Vitamin A & D, Natural Colour (Carotenes), Vitamin B12
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Post by petea on Jun 27, 2022 16:09:35 GMT
From an environmental standpoint, I don't think there is any form of Palm oil that one can consider to be good. Buying things with it in simply drives demand. I do not buy any product with it in (even when they try to 'science-up' the name (eg sodium palmate in soap etc).
I guess you have similar issues with stearates too, Mike. And as for vegan candles...
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Post by Slinger on Jun 27, 2022 17:04:01 GMT
Pure Spread could be the least worst Vegetable Fat Spread (54%) with 32% Sunflower Oil Free from nasties* *Free from artificial flavours, colours & preservatives 65% less saturated fat than butter** **Butter contains 54g per 100g We've been proudly pure since 1994. RSPO - We Use Certified Sustainable Palm Oil, 2-0868-18-100-00 Spread, Cook, Bake Made from Honest, Plant Based Ingredients Dairy, Gluten and Lactose Free High in Omega 3 Source of Vitamins A, D, E & B12 Free from GM Ingredients & Hydrogenated Fats Suitable for vegans Pack size: 500G High in Omega 3 Source of Vitamins A, D, E & B12 Information Ingredients Vegetable Oils (Sunflower (32%), Palm, Linseed), Water, Salt (0.75%), Natural Flavouring, Vitamin E, Vitamin A & D, Natural Colour (Carotenes), Vitamin B12 I've just ordered a tub of Pure Dairy Free Vegan Olive Spread to try. 75% Less Saturated Fat than Butter 11.1g per 100g ** ** Butter Contains 50 - 55g per 100g (those are my adjusted figures after checking 10 types of butter on the Sainsbury's website)Olive Oil Goodness*** *** Rich in monounsaturated fats. Replacing saturated fat with unsaturated fat in the diet contributes to the maintenance of normal blood cholesterol levels, as part of a varied and balanced diet and healthy lifestyle.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 27, 2022 17:20:21 GMT
I rarely use butter.
Flora spreads are fine, I'm not going to get silly over spreading a couple of slices every 2-3 days. Life is too short. Prefer Olivio, but switched only for the cholesterol.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 28, 2022 21:47:17 GMT
After trying out a few zero alcohol lagers, Beck's Blue Alcohol-Free is still my favourite. The Birra Moretti Alcohol-Free was quite nice, and a little bit sweeter than Beck's Blue. I'm currently on bottled Heineken 0.0, and it's lacking a bit in flavour, and it's quite gassy compared to the other two.
Guinness Alcohol-Free 0.0% made a nice change of pace. It's not as full-bodied as the "real" thing, although it's been years since I tried canned Guinness, and I'm basing the comparison on my memory of draught Guinness, so it was never going to match up to that. For Guinness-lovers who want to cut out the alcohol (and the calories), I'd definitely suggest trying it. I still can't get the Big Drop Brewing Co. Galactic Milk Alcohol-Free Stout online, so I haven't been able to compare that to the Guinness, but straight away, it's a lot more expensive. It works out at £4.55 per litre against £2.27 for the Guinness; it's twice the price in fact.
It's funny how things work out because when I started on the alcohol-free stuff it never even occurred to me that it was half the calories of ordinary beer, so that was an unexpected bonus for me. Sadly, what I've also discovered tonight is that zero alcohol beer contains more sugar than alcoholic beer. It's not a huge amount, Beck's Blue, for instance, contains 8.5g of carbs, 0.6g of which is sugar, in a 275ml bottle, but it's not something the brewers seem to be shouting about either. Again, I can't see my one bottle a night, or even two, being disastrous though especially balanced against the lower calorie count.
Alcohol-free beer really has come on in leaps and bounds over the last few years, due, so I've read, to more people trying to cut down on their alcohol consumption and brewers needing to tempt the new breed of non-drinker who still likes the taste of beer, but not the effect it has.
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Post by speedysteve on Jun 28, 2022 22:47:33 GMT
I can't drink alcohol beer anymore. I just don't like the taste! The top ones for me There's an isotonic too that's great. Though I usually just have Aldi Pilsner - well chilled it's fine. Slightly more sugar than Lidl's version.
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Post by rfan8312 on Jun 29, 2022 2:21:10 GMT
What do you think of this Paul? Something I learned from a recent trip to a nutritionist.
60 grams of carbs in the morning 60-75g at lunch 60g at supper
Would that land anywhere near your current carb intake? This is what I was recommended to switch to.
The way it was presented to me was with a list of items/portions that have 15g of carbs and that I could pick 4 at each meal.
A small bag of chips is 15g, 1 slice of unspecified bread was considered 15g, a bowl of cereal another 15g, and a portion of potatoes was 15g.
Even fast food that comes without a label was googled by the nutrionist to show how many carbs a specific popular item would have.
She did seem to make it quite easy to count and calculate.
I've purchased a food scale as well which has come in handy when weighing marinated chicken portions.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 29, 2022 10:21:39 GMT
I can't drink alcohol beer anymore. I just don't like the taste! Same here. My favourite non-alcoholic beers - Clausthaler Erdinger Bitburger
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Post by Slinger on Jun 29, 2022 13:20:04 GMT
What do you think of this Paul? Something I learned from a recent trip to a nutritionist. 60 grams of carbs in the morning 60-75g at lunch 60g at supper Would that land anywhere near your current carb intake? This is what I was recommended to switch to. The way it was presented to me was with a list of items/portions that have 15g of carbs and that I could pick 4 at each meal. A small bag of chips is 15g, 1 slice of unspecified bread was considered 15g, a bowl of cereal another 15g, and a portion of potatoes was 15g. Even fast food that comes without a label was googled by the nutrionist to show how many carbs a specific popular item would have. She did seem to make it quite easy to count and calculate. I've purchased a food scale as well which has come in handy when weighing marinated chicken portions. Apart from being as sensible as I can, I'll not be planning any total diet makeovers until I've spoken to the nurse at my GP's surgery, which will not be until July 13th.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 29, 2022 14:32:52 GMT
It's laudable to try to lose weight, but as a diabetic you have to be very careful to maintain balance. If you take only tablets, it's easier because your body is still manufacturing a decent level of insulin. If you're on insulin, however, you need to take care to maintain balance using your meter readings every day. That becomes doubly challenging if you're not balancing the insulin against your food intake.
Trust me, balancing while changing parameters is liable to have you feeling dreadful at odd times in the day. It can be dangerous if you're driving.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 10, 2022 15:34:23 GMT
After testing both the Pure Dairy Free Vegan Olive Spread and the Pure Dairy Free Buttery Taste for a week, I have come to the following conclusions. Both are prefectly acceptable, and quite tasty. I reserve the :"Olive" for stronger, spicier toppings, plus, obviously, anything that "goes" with olives. The "Buttery" is even richer-tasting than my old spread, and healthier. It's great on things like plain toast, and to accompany more delicately flavoured toppings, like my favourite Paysan Breton French Sea Salt Cream Cheese.
If something "healthy" comes on offer I'll probably give it a go, just for comparison's sake, but generally speaking I think I'll be sticking with both variarions of Pure.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 10, 2022 18:52:03 GMT
I've swapped back to Pure Will carry on looking for something even better
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Post by seanm on Jul 12, 2022 2:45:30 GMT
Dear All,
I have been reading this thread with interest. Fortunately, I do NOT suffer with diabetes. However, much of my thinking about healthy eating and weight loss does centre around the same ideas and requirements.... mainly the problems with excess Sugar and carbs. For example, I like a lot of what DR Michael Mosley has to say on these topics.
I have sat on this post for a couple of weeks since I am concerned that I am just pedalling snake oil and quackery. However, I feel that there is enough interest/hype in this topic for people with high sugar levels to at least look into it since I had never even heard of it. I have seen lots written about the supplement Berberine. The hype suggests that is fixes everything including unemployment and high inflation . Specifically, it is the comments about "berberine vs metformin" for the control of blood sugar levels. There is a load on youTube and the web in general. Obviously, much of this information is biased and lacks peer review etc.
All the normal terms and conditions apply.... I have zero medical training, I am NOT affiliated to anyone flogging this or any other supplement. Do you own research and if you are on meditation etc talk to your healthcare professional.
Cheers
Sean
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