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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 27, 2022 17:23:41 GMT
Information on what you can be paying if you buy a retirement flat for anyone thinking about it for themselves or a relative
From what I know the companies who sell and run these set ups are looking to maximise revenue at every opportunity. The old punters or family have no choice and have to cough up
Look very carefully at any piece of paper you have to sign "Reasonable charge" means they can charge more or less what they want
Purchase cost Look out. Buying brand new may seem a good move Purchase price is 10-20% higher than 2nd hand.
Ongoing costs Ground rent. Ball park £250 per quarter Service charge. £2000 per quarter. Do not expect much for that. We certainly didn't see it in the example we know. The manager of the set up we know was often away, no cover for the oldies and if you wanted something you almost certainly do it and pay for it yourself. Classic in this 2nd floor flat. There is a lift but you are not allowed to move furniture and other in it. Only people. So up and down the stairs
You pay for electricity and gas, if available yourself.
There may be other charges I have forgotten
The real salt in the wounds comes when you sell. We bought in 2nd hand 2003, just sold and lost just over 10%. Yes, on property.
It gets worse selling. On top of that Management pack fee £320 Management Contingency Fee £1,130 Another management pack £150.00 Another management Transfer fee £1,130 Two different management companies both charging what they want
Plus estate agent and solicitor fees of course
Tread carefully if you are looking at doing this. Better still buy a conventional place
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 27, 2022 21:10:29 GMT
You might also think of the alternative of Equity Release
Another not so smart move From what I saw a few years back just an expensive way to borrow money I bet it is the same or worse as even more cowboys get into it
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Post by karatestu on Feb 28, 2022 6:01:43 GMT
Just like with care homes this is an example of profiteering from the old and handicapped. Making money out of other people's misery. It's disgusting imo.
Buy a bungalow and leave your kids something when you go. Don't let it be sucked away by these leaches. I don't understand why people need so much money in retirement.
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 28, 2022 9:27:40 GMT
Industries that have been set up to extract the most they can from the punter
Forgot to mention the flats were built by one company, sold on, twice I think in the time the MIL lived there and at some time one management company was split into two to extract more cash. Doesn't take much looking to see the two companies are actually the same one Service to the old folks verged on disinterest to incompetence
Perhaps most importantly they were not updated about Covid. Most of them couldn't understand what was going and so did not protect themselves We know of at least 4 or 5 that died, almost certainly due to Covid. The manager self isolated for what I believe was very many weeks and there was no replacement.
Comes back to one of my mantras Trust no one (until they prove themselves otherwise)
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Post by brettj on Mar 1, 2022 9:33:59 GMT
How my mother-in-law was ripped off in her retirement village.
Unit was bought. Eight years later when she sold back to them, it was 30% less than the purchase price. Even though its value had increased by 25%.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 1, 2022 10:33:02 GMT
Older people :
Prime target for nasty companies to make money from That makes our experience sound good in comparison
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