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Post by karatestu on Feb 19, 2022 19:39:13 GMT
I bloody love this band. They are so uplifting and one of my favourites to cheer myself up. Great songs, brilliant musicians and most of all funky as a funky thing. I even like the lyrics and singing which on occasion can be a bit of a let down with funky stuff. I am the biggest funk, disco, jazz funk, acid jazz fan there is. If it's got a funky bass line then I'm there and Sly & the family stone is dripping in funky bass lines. Pity I can't dance for toffee. I'm currently reading Dave Grohl's book and he comments that he has seen a lot of drummers dancing over the years and it's never pretty
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Post by Slinger on Feb 19, 2022 20:57:33 GMT
It (funk) was never a type of music I could get into. The Brothers Johson's version of Shuggie Otis' " Strawberry Letter 23" is brilliant, and Funkadelic's " Maggot Brain" is (because of Eddie Hazel) immense and I like odd bits of AWB, and Sly, etc, but as a genre I'd never buy anything simply because it was funk, just like I wouldn't refuse to buy something because it was funk, if that makes sense. I think there are tunes in pretty much every genre I don't go for that just break the mould as far as I'm concerned. I enjoyed Stormzy's " Heavy Is the Head" album but I wouldn'r consider myself a Stormzy fan. I guess it also depends on who's doing the categorizing. I've seen Booker T and the MGs described as "funk," and Curtis Mayfield too. Tower of Power, Brass Construction, Parliament/Funkadelic, Sly, Chic... that's Funk to me. Disco. I cannot stand it. Disco took over from music in clubs as far as I'm concerned, and as for the bloody Squee Gees, don't even go there. Of couse, a bit of Donna Summer is OK, cos Georgio Moroder was a class act but mostly the Disco acts I like I only like when they're NOT playing Disco. People like Harold Melvin, Luther Vandross, The Stylistics, etc. I've just remembered the Love Unlimited Orchestra. I qiote liked them. Barry White though? No thanks. Of course, half of the acts you like, Syu, I've probably never heard of, let alone heard. I think it all comes down to musicianship with me most of the time, and if not the musicians themselves then the song arrangements. Disco always sounded soooooooooo samey to me; production line music. At least with funk there was some invention and innovation going on.
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Post by karatestu on Feb 20, 2022 8:18:14 GMT
It (funk) was never a type of music I could get into. The Brothers Johson's version of Shuggie Otis' " Strawberry Letter 23" is brilliant, and Funkadelic's " Maggot Brain" is (because of Eddie Hazel) immense and I like odd bits of AWB, and Sly, etc, but as a genre I'd never buy anything simply because it was funk, just like I wouldn't refuse to buy something because it was funk, if that makes sense. I think there are tunes in pretty much every genre I don't go for that just break the mould as far as I'm concerned. I enjoyed Stormzy's " Heavy Is the Head" album but I wouldn'r consider myself a Stormzy fan. I guess it also depends on who's doing the categorizing. I've seen Booker T and the MGs described as "funk," and Curtis Mayfield too. Tower of Power, Brass Construction, Parliament/Funkadelic, Sly, Chic... that's Funk to me. Disco. I cannot stand it. Disco took over from music in clubs as far as I'm concerned, and as for the bloody Squee Gees, don't even go there. Of couse, a bit of Donna Summer is OK, cos Georgio Moroder was a class act but mostly the Disco acts I like I only like when they're NOT playing Disco. People like Harold Melvin, Luther Vandross, The Stylistics, etc. I've just remembered the Love Unlimited Orchestra. I qiote liked them. Barry White though? No thanks. Of course, half of the acts you like, Syu, I've probably never heard of, let alone heard. I think it all comes down to musicianship with me most of the time, and if not the musicians themselves then the song arrangements. Disco always sounded soooooooooo samey to me; production line music. At least with funk there was some invention and innovation going on. If we all liked the same thing Paul it would be a boring old world wouldn't it. I probably class more things as funk than I should. Curtis is definitely funk in this house but not his really early stuff. Roots and Superfly are proper funky. Herbie Hancock got funky on a couple of albums (Secrets, Manchild). It's the bass line that does it for me. The disco things - there is a lit of dross jn that genre but the stuff I like I really like. I played a lot of what I call happy music (funk, disco, funky jazz) when covid was a big worry. It made me feel better and watching my kid's dance to it was very uplifting. Muse be just me then . I'll get back in my cave with Sly.on my funkomatic wind up gramophone and STFU.
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Post by speedysteve on Feb 20, 2022 8:29:47 GMT
I like Revolution by Robbie Williams.. That features Rose Stone - Incredible voice 😀 The great bass might have something to do with me liking it too.
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Post by karatestu on Feb 20, 2022 8:52:58 GMT
From Wikipedia
"Music critic Joel Selvin wrote, "there are two types of black music: black music before Sly Stone, and black music after Sly Stone"
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Post by Slinger on Feb 20, 2022 15:36:49 GMT
It (funk) was never a type of music I could get into. The Brothers Johson's version of Shuggie Otis' " Strawberry Letter 23" is brilliant, and Funkadelic's " Maggot Brain" is (because of Eddie Hazel) immense and I like odd bits of AWB, and Sly, etc, but as a genre I'd never buy anything simply because it was funk, just like I wouldn't refuse to buy something because it was funk, if that makes sense. I think there are tunes in pretty much every genre I don't go for that just break the mould as far as I'm concerned. I enjoyed Stormzy's " Heavy Is the Head" album but I wouldn'r consider myself a Stormzy fan. I guess it also depends on who's doing the categorizing. I've seen Booker T and the MGs described as "funk," and Curtis Mayfield too. Tower of Power, Brass Construction, Parliament/Funkadelic, Sly, Chic... that's Funk to me. Disco. I cannot stand it. Disco took over from music in clubs as far as I'm concerned, and as for the bloody Squee Gees, don't even go there. Of couse, a bit of Donna Summer is OK, cos Georgio Moroder was a class act but mostly the Disco acts I like I only like when they're NOT playing Disco. People like Harold Melvin, Luther Vandross, The Stylistics, etc. I've just remembered the Love Unlimited Orchestra. I qiote liked them. Barry White though? No thanks. Of course, half of the acts you like, Syu, I've probably never heard of, let alone heard. I think it all comes down to musicianship with me most of the time, and if not the musicians themselves then the song arrangements. Disco always sounded soooooooooo samey to me; production line music. At least with funk there was some invention and innovation going on. If we all liked the same thing Paul it would be a boring old world wouldn't it. I probably class more things as funk than I should. Curtis is definitely funk in this house but not his really early stuff. Roots and Superfly are proper funky. Herbie Hancock got funky on a couple of albums (Secrets, Manchild). It's the bass line that does it for me. The disco things - there is a lit of dross jn that genre but the stuff I like I really like. I played a lot of what I call happy music (funk, disco, funky jazz) when covid was a big worry. It made me feel better and watching my kid's dance to it was very uplifting. Muse be just me then . I'll get back in my cave with Sly.on my funkomatic wind up gramophone and STFU. I've said the same thing loads of times, Stu. I also love the fact that although I might dislike whole genres generally, I can still find examples of them that I find impossible not to like. Wild Cherry - Play That Funky Music (White Boy) is another example. I always enjoyed that track, and I didn't realise that the guitarist, Bryan Bassett, was also involved with Foghat and Molly Hatchett. Two different versions of that song. I'm not a real fan of either artist, but I believe they prove that you can't keep a good song down. And one for ******** Thunder?
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Post by karatestu on Feb 26, 2022 7:01:29 GMT
Mr Slinger, what d'ya reckon about the guitar hook in this tune ? Bloody marvellous if you ask me. The groove is genius.
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Post by Slinger on Feb 26, 2022 10:08:47 GMT
I can appreciate it from a technical standpoint, Stu. The whole song is locked together brilliantly, which is 90% down to the rhythm section, it just doesn't "move" me. Mind you, short of Syrup of Figs or ExLax I'm not sure that anything could this morning.
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Post by mayebaza on Feb 26, 2022 13:28:15 GMT
I think Summer of Soul on Disney+ provides the Family Stone's seminmal performance. You guys need to check it out.
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