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Post by brettj on Oct 7, 2021 9:21:27 GMT
Last year a Hiface Evo, Clock and Power Supply came up for sale for £75.
I ended up buying it, not really sure what it did.
Found out the Evo was no longer supported on PC or Mac.
Emailed Marco (the designer) who sent me an Evo Two at a pretty good price.
I tried it in my work system, but wasn't able to discern what it did (an old pre/power Plinius, Mission 780 speakers, Macbook Air).
Have been trying to get my head around Martin's additions.
This does what?, I've asked myself a few times.
I'm restrained by my 600x550x420mm cupboard.
That's where I'm allowed to put my gear.
Is the Hiface Evo and Clock similar in application to Martin's Mutec reclocker?
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Post by John on Oct 7, 2021 9:43:48 GMT
The Mutec doing the same job but just another performance level. To be honest just get a SMSL M400 and you not to far away from the A22, yes reclicking would take this further but doubt you feel the need
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Post by John on Oct 7, 2021 9:45:50 GMT
Also Martin doing a few other things to the clock chain.
These days I am just using Bluetooth and continue to be blown away with the sound quality
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 7, 2021 9:57:29 GMT
I am also amazed at the sound I get from my sub optimal laptop driving a Bluetooth adaptor
Cheap enough for a punt. Around £40 last time I looked from Aliexpress / Alibaba
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Post by brettj on Oct 7, 2021 10:39:35 GMT
The Mutec doing the same job but just another performance level. To be honest just get a SMSL M400 and you not to far away from the A22, yes reclicking would take this further but doubt you feel the need You mentioned similar to the Gustard A22, if not using it as a preamp, which I'm not. Still have to be wary of import duty and tax. |
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Post by brettj on Oct 7, 2021 10:45:14 GMT
If the Mutec and Hiface Evo are doing the same thing, I'm pretty happy about it.
Just being in the same ballpark as a few of your additions will improve my listening pleasure.
Bought a Halide Bridge from Jerry three years ago?
Was extremely happy with it. Tony suggested it.
The Evo with Clock and Power Supply is supposed to be better than the Bridge.
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Post by MartinT on Oct 7, 2021 11:46:46 GMT
The Mutec is an amazing bit of kit for the ultimate in reclocking. Just remember that reclocking's primary purpose is to reduce phase noise on the digital lines, it's not only about jitter. If you pay attention to grounding, and possibly use an inexpensive Chinese grounding box or two, you will get part way there.
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Post by brettj on Oct 7, 2021 18:19:20 GMT
The Mutec is an amazing bit of kit for the ultimate in reclocking. Just remember that reclocking's primary purpose is to reduce phase noise on the digital lines, it's not only about jitter. If you pay attention to grounding, and possibly use an inexpensive Chinese grounding box or two, you will get part way there. I'm happy to be half way there... ...living on a prayer. |
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Post by brettj on Oct 11, 2021 10:04:22 GMT
Also Martin doing a few other things to the clock chain. These days I am just using Bluetooth and continue to be blown away with the sound quality The problem I have with Bluetooth, in with my Apple phone and Mac Air. I'm sending MP3s to my system and headphones. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Oct 11, 2021 10:46:36 GMT
John's recommendation is to get hold of a tablet to drive Bluetooth with the relevant bits
That is in the future for me
Very happy driving it from my W10 laptop for short and longer sampling of albums
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Post by brettj on Nov 19, 2021 20:19:27 GMT
I'm looking at getting an EtherRegen at some stage, but availability is like the Gustard A22.
With my house I have to stream via Wifi.
Here's the plan
Vodafone modem to EtherRegen via MeiCord Opal ethernet cable to Fidelizer Airstream wifi router via MeiCord Opal ethernet cable.
Is this where/how I can use the EtherRegen effectively?
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Post by MartinT on Nov 19, 2021 20:34:24 GMT
No good using it before wi-fi as the latter introduces jitter by its very nature.
What do you have at the receiving end? You could use a wi-fi extender with ethernet socket which would allow you to reclock and feed the streamer via cable. Much better than using the streamer's wi-fi.
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Post by brettj on Nov 19, 2021 22:28:52 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Nov 19, 2021 23:05:32 GMT
The problem is, wi-fi is jittery. Any treatment before it is pretty much wasted.
If you were to receive the wi-fi with an inexpensive receiver/extender, of which most have an ethernet socket, you can then reclock the ethernet just before it enters the streamer. That'll maximise the effect and the quality of the feed.
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 20, 2021 9:32:43 GMT
Question for the hard of learning like me
Will Bluetooth be jittery like wifi ?
How do the two compare for sound quality ?
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Post by brettj on Nov 20, 2021 9:35:07 GMT
The problem is, wi-fi is jittery. Any treatment before it is pretty much wasted. If you were to receive the wi-fi with an inexpensive receiver/extender, of which most have an ethernet socket, you can then reclock the ethernet just before it enters the streamer. That'll maximise the effect and the quality of the feed. That's an idea I hadn't thought of. It would work. Will keep that in mind for next year. No EtherRegens around anyway. Looking at getting SR Purple fuses, the Fidelizer Airstream, a power supply for modem/router, and maybe a grounding box. |
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Post by John on Nov 20, 2021 13:09:44 GMT
Question for the hard of learning like me Will Bluetooth be jittery like wifi ? How do the two compare for sound quality ? I do not have issues Mike |
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Post by John on Nov 20, 2021 13:21:19 GMT
If your tablet can play music without jitter than it will output the same only issue if you have a poor wifi signal
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 20, 2021 13:45:35 GMT
Question for the hard of learning like me Will Bluetooth be jittery like wifi ? How do the two compare for sound quality ? I do not have issues Mike Don't think I do with Laptop Bluetooth to adaptor box |
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Post by MartinT on Nov 20, 2021 19:55:25 GMT
Bluetooth is point to point and should have less contention and packet loss than wi-fi.
Move too far away, though, and you'll know what excessive data loss sounds like.
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