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Post by brettj on Aug 15, 2021 21:55:51 GMT
Joy Oladokun - Carry (2016)I've been mulling album choice for this day over a number of months. Has not helped that I've packed my stereo away. I should be in a state of grief, but my 1 yr old grandson is worth any sacrifice. So, nothing at the forefront for me, due to no music time. Unless you count Rahda, NZ kids songs and the Wiggles. So, a modern version of Tracy Chapman. Suggested by my daughter, who is over with Leo. Indie singer/songwriter. Fighting the fight - fiercely independent. Messages important to hear. And shaking me out of my 70s/80s listening patterns. (Yesterday went for a walk, and spun 'From the Lion's Mouth.') listen.tidal.com/album/150272716
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Post by MartinT on Aug 16, 2021 5:25:27 GMT
Thanks, Brett. That album is not on Qobuz so I'll have a listen on Spotify later on.
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Post by John on Aug 16, 2021 5:34:48 GMT
New to me Brett. But I am liking it. I comment more when I have a proper listen on the big system.
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Post by petea on Aug 16, 2021 7:45:31 GMT
I too will explore this more a bit later, but my first impression is that a modern-day Tracy Chapman she ain't! I will listen to the album properly though.
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Post by Slinger on Aug 16, 2021 11:38:26 GMT
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Post by brettj on Aug 16, 2021 20:30:34 GMT
I too will explore this more a bit later, but my first impression is that a modern-day Tracy Chapman she ain't! I will listen to the album properly though. The comparison to Tracy Chapman has nothing to do with Tracy's folk sound. |
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Post by petea on Aug 16, 2021 20:50:07 GMT
Yes, I realised that it was the social commentary of her lyrics that was probably what was being referred to. The fragments I listened to seemed to lack the 'bite' of Chapman, but I will listen properly, hopefully tomorrow.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 16, 2021 21:03:54 GMT
She has her own singing style with better range and inflexion than Chapman, who I always thought of as rather limited. The social commentary is of little interest to me, but I listened to her vocal delivery intently. Shelter is the best song here, and to my surprise is the most listened-to on Spotify by far. Young reminds me of several singers, perhaps Alana Davis the most?
Frankly, these are far better songs and she has a better voice than Chapman, so there is no comparison. I feel this is going to be a grower so it gets a 4/5 from me. I just wish it was on Qobuz.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 16, 2021 21:09:26 GMT
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Post by petea on Aug 17, 2021 15:47:22 GMT
I have rated the album as 'nice' although probably at the lower end for me. I found the simpler arrangements to be the stronger ones and really didn't like the opening track very much at all. As I stated previously, she really does not remind me of Tracy Chapman much at all. To a certain extent her confessional style has similarities, but the messages are lost in the lack of clarity in her singing style. Despite that, I mostly liked her voice although the tonal shifts she uses on certain words in certain songs I found irritating, but that is not unique to her and it is generally not a style I like. "Charlestone" and "Animals and Angels" were the stand-out tracks for me, despite the drummer!
What was striking was the recording level and I needed to drop the volume quite a few steps when the album started to play. It seems a bit overcooked, but maybe that was a result of the route she needed to take to get it released.
I will certainly try "In defence" and this might get another play, well certain tracks at least.
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Post by petea on Aug 17, 2021 15:54:29 GMT
Certainly much more dynamic range on "In Defence..." and reverb on the vocal
I'll give it a proper play tomorrow.
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Post by brettj on Aug 18, 2021 0:47:06 GMT
Slight misunderstanding, which happens in posts.
She sees herself as 'a queer woman of colour,' which is her parallel to Tracy Chapman.
Especially now in the acknowledged and more publicised BLM social movement.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 18, 2021 5:31:21 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up, Brett. Makes no difference to me, I was comparing their voices rather than lyrics or personal life.
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Post by John on Aug 18, 2021 6:30:40 GMT
I quite like the album I am not sure how often I would listen to it again, it somewhere between a 3 and 4 for me. I think I give it a 3 as I said I am not sure how often I would listen to it
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Post by petea on Aug 18, 2021 6:45:43 GMT
Slight misunderstanding, which happens in posts. She sees herself as 'a queer woman of colour,' which is her parallel to Tracy Chapman. Especially now in the acknowledged and more publicised BLM social movement. Thanks, Brett. She is certainly an intersting person with an original voice (in the broadest meaning). I read her biography etc and she cites Tracy Chapman as an influence, but her own style I think is very distinct from that and her vocalisation and phrasing are much more current in style I find. I did try her latest album and will probably go back again, but my first impression was that I preferred her more sparcely produced songs and really found the reverb used, in the songs I listened to, to be excessive: her voice doesn't need it. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 18, 2021 6:59:26 GMT
Yes, I thought the same thing about the reverb.
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Post by ajski2fly on Aug 18, 2021 9:20:30 GMT
Sorry but I just could not get into this, maybe I was in the wrong mood. for me it sounded like a poor Joan Armatrading album, where all the songs sound similar, and the range of here voice was cut off. TBH I found her voice rather disappointing and not much range and the songs had quite a similar feel/sound, sound I suppose I became bored with it.
so its 2/5 from me.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 22, 2021 15:35:55 GMT
Fair but not for me.
Music is so so
Not keen on a lot of female singers including our Joy
2/5
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Post by Slinger on Aug 22, 2021 16:30:31 GMT
OK-ish. Nothing to write home about. Innofensive enough, but it sounds like it came off of a production line for this sort of music. Sadly, it does sound a bit like Tracy Chapman,.s some of her stuff actually is this anonymous, but it never reaches the heights that she can.
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