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Post by ChrisB on Jun 9, 2021 20:20:21 GMT
This is a track that I keep going back to. It's a guitar instrumental that has a great 'Green Onions' type groove to it.
Elliot played in the very early Mothers of Invention for a short while and then later in Beefheart's Magic Band as The Winged Eel Fingerling.
This track turned up in the 1980s on a compilation of work by various ex-members of The Mothers and then on his solo album The4 or 'The The The The' for people without a superscript button!
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Post by Slinger on Jun 9, 2021 20:39:58 GMT
I've never heard that track before, Chris. It's a bit good, isn't it?
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 9, 2021 22:55:00 GMT
I think it's superb, Paul. I would be interested in what you think of it from your perspective as a guitar player.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 10, 2021 16:45:46 GMT
I've spent quite some time trying to work out why I like this piece, and I can't come up with an answer. To be honest, it's a mess. His timing is all over the place, but at least it's in tune, unless he decides to play out of tune. That "angular" rhythm reminds me a bit of Beefheart's "Upon the My-O-My" but Bill Harkleroad played guitar on that, so I'm even more confused now. Maybe he played it live, in a later incarnation of the band. Maybe it's nothing to do with it. For some reason it also reminds me of Talking heads' "Once In A Lifetime," but it sounds nothing like it.
It puts me in mind of something you'd record stoned, and then be a bit surprised at on the playbasck, because you were sure you'd been locked in solid with the rhythm section.
I still don't know why I like it though.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 10, 2021 17:17:19 GMT
It's a good bit of music rather than guitar pyrotechnics, is why it sounds good.
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 11, 2021 7:37:51 GMT
Your comment is interesting Paul, because I can't, for the life of me, work out why I love the track so much either.
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Post by rfan8312 on Jun 11, 2021 13:00:50 GMT
Gorgeous. I haven't heard quite that kind of groove at so high a pitch during some guitar lead work.
The section on the YouTube clip there at 1:25 is just gorgeous.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 11, 2021 15:58:40 GMT
It's a bit like trying to understand why I love this one, and I gave up trying to do that years ago.  It's just so completely unconventional. Both guitarists seem to be making things work that should never, ever, work. |
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 11, 2021 19:38:46 GMT
Funny because Maggot Brain feels much more understandable to me!
I am glad though, that one or two people seem to like Gingerwail, as I thought most people would likely just not see it themselves.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 14, 2021 15:46:55 GMT
It finally came to me today (where most good ideas tend to come to one) as I was sitting, contemplating life in general. THIS is the damn groove that's been at the back of my mind since I head Gingerwail.
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Post by rfan8312 on Jun 14, 2021 23:41:21 GMT
Daaamn. That's a keeper.
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Post by nick193 on Jun 15, 2021 6:34:01 GMT
This is gold! I like to think of myself as fairly knowledgeable with guitar music but I've never heard this track before. Definitely going on the list. Thanks!
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 15, 2021 6:45:37 GMT
That's great and I'm really glad you like it, Nick.
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