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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 26, 2014 13:50:53 GMT
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2014 14:03:01 GMT
Leave them on for a fortnight, then take them off.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 26, 2014 14:17:01 GMT
Why ?
Or will that spoil the fun ?
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Post by dvh on Aug 26, 2014 14:29:43 GMT
If he takes them out again, won't the electricity start leaking out?
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Post by Pinch on Aug 26, 2014 14:44:25 GMT
If he takes them out again, won't the electricity start leaking out? Be very careful...
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Post by Paul Barker on Aug 26, 2014 17:28:46 GMT
The unshorted unused inputs are an antenna. Simples.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2014 17:50:11 GMT
Why ? Or will that spoil the fun ? I just find it's the best way to judge changes to my system. Get used to the sound, stop thinking about the change you've made and allow your subconscious to completely accustom itself to what you're hearing. After a while, it will become 'the sound of Mike's system'. When you remove them, it will reveal what is actually happening rather than what you think is happening. I think a lot of ill-advised 'upgrades' could be avoided if more people were to take this approach.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2014 20:04:31 GMT
I've stoppered all my unused inputs and outputs. It makes a tiny difference, but everything helps.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2014 21:01:05 GMT
Sorry, I should clarify what I've said. I don't mean to imply that Mike's end caps are not making a difference, it's just that I think he'll have a better idea of exactly what that difference is if he goes back to check after a decent period of time. My comment about ill-advised 'upgrades' refers to making one change before being aware of the impact of a previous one.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2014 22:42:24 GMT
I agree with that, Chris. Going back on an upgrade is the surest way of making sure that you haven't taken a wrong turn.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2014 22:46:52 GMT
I despair sometimes when I hear of people piling change upon change in quick succession. Also folks who set into modifying something the moment they buy it!
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Post by dvh on Aug 26, 2014 23:31:53 GMT
I despair sometimes when I hear of people piling change upon change in quick succession. Also folks who set into modifying something the moment they buy it! I never modify anything. I figure the blokes who designed/built the equipment I buy knew what they were doing.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 27, 2014 0:34:08 GMT
I despair sometimes when I hear of people piling change upon change in quick succession. Also folks who set into modifying something the moment they buy it! I never modify anything. I figure the blokes who designed/built the equipment I buy knew what they were doing. The guys who designed/built the equipment you buy probably did know what they were doing. The bean counter on the project wouldn't have given a flying wotsitsname about the specified parts and their cost and gone out and purchased cheaper and shittier parts for the production item
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 27, 2014 7:55:39 GMT
Why ? Or will that spoil the fun ? I just find it's the best way to judge changes to my system. Get used to the sound, stop thinking about the change you've made and allow your subconscious to completely accustom itself to what you're hearing. After a while, it will become 'the sound of Mike's system'. When you remove them, it will reveal what is actually happening rather than what you think is happening. I think a lot of ill-advised 'upgrades' could be avoided if more people were to take this approach. Point taken. I usually test and if happy leave as is. Sometimes go back especially when a lot of dough is involved. I much prefer going 'up' as I find it easier to hear what has been added rather than what has been taken away.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 27, 2014 7:57:00 GMT
I've stoppered all my unused inputs and outputs. It makes a tiny difference, but everything helps. I was expecting a small change. This seems to be more than that. Possibly as there are so many inputs on the 2600 This is only the RCA in, there are 2 unused XLRs too ! - stoppers on their way
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 27, 2014 8:12:49 GMT
I despair sometimes when I hear of people piling change upon change in quick succession. Also folks who set into modifying something the moment they buy it! I never modify anything. I figure the blokes who designed/built the equipment I buy knew what they were doing. I'll take sound quality improvements from almost anything. There are only so many things the kit designers can build in. A Mana or similar stand improves the sound. Dedicated mains circuit and unswitched sockets That was it for me for many years. My next improvement was mains cables. Now, I *knew* this could not work so when it did I was very surprised. Next was interconnects, an open mind on that and yes, they worked too. That was it until the funny little supports I tried recently, under the kit and on top of the Mana. Then the stoppers. The original kit manufacturers just can't bring that into their range and most people wouldn't go for it or perhaps even believe it.
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Post by dvh on Aug 27, 2014 8:16:27 GMT
I never modify anything. I figure the blokes who designed/built the equipment I buy knew what they were doing. I'll take sound quality improvements from almost anything. There are only so many things the kit designers can build in. A Mana or similar stand improves the sound. Dedicated mains circuit and unswitched sockets That was it for me for many years. My next improvement was mains cables. Now, I *knew* this could not work so when it did I was very surprised. Next was interconnects, an open mind on that and yes, they worked too. That was it until the funny little supports I tried recently, under the kit and on top of the Mana. Then the stoppers. The original kit manufacturers just can't bring that into their range and most people wouldn't go for it or perhaps even believe it. I wouldn't classify any of those as 'modifications' though - they're all add-ons. I interpret 'modifications' as changing internal components; anything that involves opening the box, as it were.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 27, 2014 8:21:29 GMT
Ah. That thought has crossed my mind, but I'm very wary if going further. My first call might be taking off cases or looking at that. Going inside is a different ball game totally
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 27, 2014 12:19:09 GMT
Then the stoppers.
The original kit manufacturers just can't bring that into their range and most people wouldn't go for it
Standard issue on all Accuphase kit
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 27, 2014 14:33:28 GMT
Oh yes. I forgot
My VIDA Phone Preamp has stoppers That's what started me wondering in the first place
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