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Post by jandl100 on Mar 16, 2021 5:11:15 GMT
Article yesterday from Canadian musician Loreena McKennitt. I've amended the title somewhat. loreenamckennitt.com/the-streaming-experiment-is-failing-artists/This has struck home with me more than ever. Any views here on the best way to donate to effectively support musicians in these very difficult times? I'm saving significant money now that I stream my music - £10 a month on Spotify when I used to spend £50 a month on CDs. I'd like to give some of that back in a useful way.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 16, 2021 6:23:39 GMT
I keep hearing that the payments vary by service, but are low in any case.
I'm not sure how best to support musicians but am open to ideas.
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Post by karatestu on Mar 16, 2021 7:00:45 GMT
Buy physical media where possible ?
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Post by jandl100 on Mar 16, 2021 7:23:36 GMT
I don't want physical media.
But I do want to support musicians.
Tbh, I feel like I've been being a parasite since I started streaming.
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2021 7:25:02 GMT
I am with you on this Jerry I feel exactly the same
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Post by mikeyb on Mar 16, 2021 7:50:13 GMT
What about buying second hand cds LPs tapes etc, artist never earned a penny from those.
Do they get paid for part streams or only full track streams?
How many of us would actually buy their cd or lp
Steaming must give them such a huge market that they would never reach with physical media.
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Post by jandl100 on Mar 16, 2021 7:57:50 GMT
Yes, streaming accesses a huge market, but it's not much good to them if they get 17p a week from it.
I don't think there is any doubt that a lot of musicians are in real trouble.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 16, 2021 8:14:57 GMT
If there were a central fund that would fairly distribute contributions among musicians, I would donate.
It's either that, or the streaming services increase their rates and we all know that ultimately they would lose subscribers and people would turn to piracy.
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 16, 2021 8:21:27 GMT
Mainstream musicians make the most money from touring I believe - ticket sales and merch.
I have made a few donations to classical music organisations. I've also been buying access to streamed concerts - I think this is important to help the orchestras stay afloat. Prices range from around £2 - £12 per stream.
In terms of buying music I'm 100% Spotify at the moment. This generates more income than when I was a vinyl addict - I'm guessing about 90% of that was second-hand.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 16, 2021 8:37:16 GMT
This is useful but sadly excludes Qobuz.
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Post by ChrisB on Mar 16, 2021 8:58:15 GMT
It's a knotty problem and the business side of the music industry failed its musicians by trying to protect themselves from illegal streaming when they should have found a way to embrace the new technology. The musicians are the victims and this is a big part of why I continue to buy CDs.
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Post by jandl100 on Mar 16, 2021 10:25:25 GMT
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Post by mansie on Mar 16, 2021 10:40:33 GMT
The audio streaming has created a consumer's paradise but it pains me that many of the artists can't make a living out of it. I heard that some musicians take their content off Spotify etc due to the paltry returns. I use Qobuz and see some new albums appear with only one song in full and the rest just 30 sec clips. It works for discovery and if the album is good then I look on Bandcamp.com to see if I can purchase it and download the FLAC file.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 16, 2021 10:51:30 GMT
When Qobuz does the 30s clips thing, it usually means the album is coming soon. Look out for the clips turning into full songs some time later.
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2021 13:13:43 GMT
Yes I use Bandcamp when I can
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Post by Slinger on Mar 16, 2021 13:46:22 GMT
I still prefer the physical media for the most part, although I do buy some FLAC downloads. Not only do I get tactile satisfaction and something to read while I'm listening, but also the thought that my son is going to be saddled with thousands of vinyl albums, thousands of vinyl singles, and CDs almost beyond number when I pop my clogs.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 16, 2021 15:53:25 GMT
Maybe things will change. However its the big organisations v's individuals Not easy to get around
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Post by naim1425 on Mar 25, 2021 14:35:36 GMT
I still prefer the physical media for the most part, although I do buy some FLAC downloads. Not only do I get tactile satisfaction and something to read while I'm listening, but also the thought that my son is going to be saddled with thousands of vinyl albums, thousands of vinyl singles, and CDs almost beyond number when I pop my clogs. So Daddy when do you think I will get your music and the other stuff psu etc
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Post by user211 on Mar 26, 2021 17:48:50 GMT
NFTs and crypto will probably come to the rescue.
It maybe that is the next revolution beyond streaming.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 26, 2021 20:27:17 GMT
Just don't give them reason to start audio watermarking again. What a way to stuff audio quality. I hated that phase in record label protectionism.
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