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Post by MartinT on Mar 22, 2021 8:11:12 GMT
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Post by jandl100 on Mar 22, 2021 8:14:40 GMT
I did say relative lack of soundstage depth.  Most folks would probably say 'Wow, what incredible imaging' . But I know that it can be better! As an aside, I think it does show that soundstaging from the MBLs is not just an easy trick of bouncing more sound from the back wall. As some electronics can substantially diminish the effect there has to be more to it than that. Made curious by huge enthusiasm shown on another forum for cheap vintage NAD integrated, I bought one. No sense of depth whatsoever, I didn't know my MBLs could do flat imaging! |
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Post by jandl100 on Mar 22, 2021 8:16:32 GMT
150 euros when Mike got his for 20 quid? Yeah, right.  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 22, 2021 9:53:34 GMT
Thanks Same or similar price direct from Kemp and UK plug looks to be available Have a magic Tony box to try first..... |
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 22, 2021 9:55:36 GMT
150 euros when Mike got his for 20 quid? Yeah, right. Rare, good stuff can go on Ebay for buttons as most have never heard of it Now were it a Naim *anything* a lot more dough  |
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Post by MartinT on Mar 22, 2021 10:30:22 GMT
I found my Kemp order acknowledgement from 2015 and paid £95 for it, so it hasn't gone up by that much.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 22, 2021 16:01:49 GMT
Can't think that a 2nd one would make that much difference
but then I didn't think ONE would make any/much difference
Didn't do much of a test
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Post by MartinT on Mar 22, 2021 17:57:05 GMT
What I can say is that the Kemp and Sercal only, sound better than when I had about 8 of the lesser buggers all plugged in together.
Two Kemps may be almost as good, although different circuits help to snub different frequency ranges of noise.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 22, 2021 18:36:18 GMT
After that and as per Pete's suggestion I will try them all out bar the Kemp
Need to list what is where first
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Post by MartinT on Jun 19, 2021 19:44:18 GMT
This is what's in a Kemp SNS. I haven't seen it described before:
Shunt filter, no dynamic restriction possible
Super fast reaction speed covering an ultra-wide frequency range, up to almost 1 Gigahertz/cycles
Lowers the shunt AC line impedance
7 stages provide the best performance
Over voltage and surge protector
WA-Quantum and Creaktiv Systems Chips internal
Potted in Akiko Audio Tuning mix (minirals) and a resin to prevent microphonic effects
Can be combined without any problem with all other audio mains related products
Easy 'plug and play' installation
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Post by petea on Jun 19, 2021 21:12:16 GMT
Out of curiosity I have just bought a new Schuko version from seller in France to try one the system in the apartment.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 19, 2021 21:53:16 GMT
Out of curiosity I have just bought a new Schuko version from seller in France to try one the system in the apartment. Good stuff. Let us know how you find it. Sadly, the UK plug version appears to be no more so any hope of finding another means constant eBay and HiFi for Sale trawls. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jun 20, 2021 9:10:37 GMT
Out of curiosity I have just bought a new Schuko version from seller in France to try one the system in the apartment. Be interested to hear what you hear Pete |
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Post by brettj on Nov 7, 2021 7:59:05 GMT
I'm looking to see if the Sercal NoNoise SE is still available.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 7, 2021 10:18:58 GMT
Good luck, Brett. I couldn't find any more of those either.
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 7, 2021 10:44:33 GMT
I can hear a difference with all of the filters I have
Tacima, Isotek, Russ Andrews, PS Audio
The big, huge difference was the first Kemp. The 2nd almost as much.
The grounding boxes came after the filters and took the sound up another couple of levels
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 7, 2021 16:39:54 GMT
I've tried Russ Andrews, Enacom and ifi. The first two made no audible change to the sound whist the ifi increased audible noise. Maybe they might have reduced the noise of my fridge ... |
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Post by John on Nov 7, 2021 17:04:36 GMT
I gave up on plug in filters a few months ago At least with grounding I can eaisly hear a audiable difference
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Post by MikeMusic on Nov 7, 2021 18:39:58 GMT
I have appeased the mains gremlins in my system |
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Post by brettj on Nov 12, 2021 21:14:47 GMT
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