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Post by user211 on Jul 23, 2020 21:20:02 GMT
My TIDAL subscription ended a couple of weeks ago and I cannot stream anything.
However, absolutely everything I downloaded onto my phone, and it's a hell of a lot of albums, all still play.
Streaming to a DLNA server is still fine via BubbleUpnp as you would expect.
So sign up for a month, fill up your phone, then cancel seems like a good way to get VFM.
Surely they must know. Or do they?
Hm.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 23, 2020 21:35:44 GMT
The true value of Tidal, Qobuz and other subscription services is the wide catalogue. Once exposed to that, why would I want just what my phone can hold?
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Post by user211 on Jul 23, 2020 21:51:11 GMT
You might not.
But that's a bit short sighted. For youngsters and people on low incomes it's an incredible deal.
But only if they care about quality because you can get anything for free anyway pretty much if you try.
Plus if you exploit the above carefully you can download enough whilst you sleep to keep you busy for months.
A half decent phone at 256GB can hold shitloads.
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Post by user211 on Jul 23, 2020 21:57:34 GMT
It's a loophole that could disappear though. A TIDAL app upgrade might fix it.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 24, 2020 4:12:38 GMT
Similarly, I've been downloading tracks onto my phone from Qobuz for when I'm out and about beyond the reach of my WiFi. That works fine, too. I don't know if it would work without an existing Qobuz contract, though.
I wouldn't want to be without permanent Qobuz connectivity, though, as Martin says it's the ability to explore and follow the whim of the moment that is the main benefit of online streaming for me.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 24, 2020 8:39:29 GMT
For youngsters and people on low incomes it's an incredible deal. Spotify is available in a free version with Ads. But people should pay for their music. |
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Post by user211 on Jul 24, 2020 9:06:35 GMT
Ture Martin. But we probably wouldn't have got where we are now as quickly if the original Napster hadn't woken the music industry up by giving it a severe kick up the butt and a wake up call to a new reality.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 24, 2020 9:19:35 GMT
Agreed!
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Post by Tim on Jul 24, 2020 12:33:44 GMT
I think I recall reading that you will be safe for a set period, can't remember what it was, possibly a week or more, but if it doesn't see an active account after that set period of time, you won't be able to play them anymore.
Could be wrong, but that seems to make sense?
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Post by Tim on Jul 24, 2020 12:37:38 GMT
Ture Martin. But we probably wouldn't have got where we are now as quickly if the original Napster hadn't woken the music industry up by giving it a severe kick up the butt and a wake up call to a new reality. Whilst I agree in principal about the industry, the real losers now are the musicians - more so than ever before. |
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Post by user211 on Jul 24, 2020 13:09:00 GMT
Ture Martin. But we probably wouldn't have got where we are now as quickly if the original Napster hadn't woken the music industry up by giving it a severe kick up the butt and a wake up call to a new reality. Whilst I agree in principal about the industry, the real losers now are the musicians - more so than ever before. I disagree. I think it's got a lot better now online commercial services have got their act together. Using Napster was always a pain and the quality was always dodgy. People are now prepared to pay for a better service rather than using a substandard illegal service. It just took the industry far to long to come up with something decent. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 24, 2020 13:13:15 GMT
The royalties for musicians from streaming services are tiny. They don't make much of a living from it.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 24, 2020 13:52:30 GMT
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Post by Tim on Jul 24, 2020 14:10:59 GMT
I disagree. I think it's got a lot better now online commercial services have got their act together. I doubt you'll find many musicians who would agree with you, Napster was used by a very small number of people compared to how many now use streaming services. You only need to look at how much music is purchased now, compared to before the arrival of Napster - better is a very subjective viewpoint, better for who? That's why so many musicians tour now, it's the only way they can make money, especially non mainstream artists. |
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Post by Slinger on Jul 24, 2020 14:21:04 GMT
 Weighted Average Per-Stream Payout Rate, by Platform, USD
Source: Digital Music News, The Trichordist, Soundcharts *** It gets complicated.*** |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 24, 2020 15:07:58 GMT
What's with none of these stats including Qobuz?
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Post by Slinger on Jul 24, 2020 16:00:43 GMT
What's with none of these stats including Qobuz? They're a bunch of fly-by-night, conspiracy-theory-quoting anarchists, Martin. Oh. Hang on. Sorry That's QAnon, isn't it. Dunno then. |
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