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Post by TheMooN on Feb 25, 2020 17:55:44 GMT
Have you ever experienced a road to Damascus moment of clarity and asked yourself WTF am I doing spending inaudament amounts of time and in some cases monies chasing the audio Dragon? For my part I have not bothered setting up my main system for the best part of three years now and do not really miss it!
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Post by Mr Whippy on Feb 25, 2020 18:30:11 GMT
Err....... No!
Never spent large amounts on Hi-Fi. Of course, "large" is relative to the individual. For decades never spent more than £200 on a component. There has been the odd exception, namely a few turntables. Never taken it all that seriously - monetary-wise.
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Post by Tim on Feb 25, 2020 18:34:50 GMT
Err . . . no also.
I leave that particular pursuit to the audiophools
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Post by TheMooN on Feb 25, 2020 18:42:12 GMT
Youve both focused on the 'Monitory' element of the question and that's fine... How about the amount of time focused on chasing HiFi.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 25, 2020 18:44:32 GMT
Have you ever experienced a road to Damascus moment of clarity and asked yourself WTF am I doing spending inaudament amounts of time and in some cases monies chasing the audio Dragon? Yes, definitely when I made the decision to stop collecting vinyl ... I realised the hours I had spent researching and buying vinyl was completely off the scale. The compromises of vinyl playback just became too much of a headache in the end. Since moving to streaming I haven't had one urge to put a record on again and all my vinyl gear is in 'retirement' ...
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Post by TheMooN on Feb 25, 2020 18:52:53 GMT
^^^I expearianced a mental image of you sitting in a circle Jules. Hi, My name Is Jules and I am a recovering Vinyl addict
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 25, 2020 19:01:23 GMT
Yes that isn't too far off from the truth!
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Post by MartinT on Feb 25, 2020 21:32:50 GMT
No, I've not spent an inordinate amount of time on system building and tweaking, just the right amount of time and very enjoyable it has been generally.
I've mostly made good decisions over the years and have never become disillusioned because it's all about the music and I never stop listening. My system is an odd mix of expensive where it needs to be and inexpensive where good performance doesn't require high expenditure.
I really couldn't imagine being without my system for three years. What happened?
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Post by John on Feb 26, 2020 5:21:41 GMT
I just could not be without music
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Post by speedysteve on Feb 26, 2020 9:19:58 GMT
Yes, exactly that. I could see and hear that ££££'s did not mean the sound I wanted. Built my own speakers, carefully chosen drivers and components. Much more rewarding, miles better sounding (to my ears) and long term.
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Post by MikeMusic on Feb 26, 2020 10:16:35 GMT
Hearing more and more music from the system when upgraded keeps me interested.
I love cycling but sometimes I just sit and listen and I love that even more and I'm lazy
Any excuse to listen to music. 4 systems in the house that go on every time I'm in that room
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Post by Clive on Feb 26, 2020 10:54:42 GMT
Are you listening to music at all on some form of system, clearly it's not your main system. I find that if I don't have time to listen via a decent system I don't miss it. But...when I get back to listening through one of my systems I realise what I've been missing. There's no need to chase the dragon, spend lots of money or even time...just set up a system and see if you enjoy listening to music. If not, flog the kit.
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Post by brian2957 on Feb 26, 2020 12:39:00 GMT
So are you still listening to music OP . If so , what with ?
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Post by TheMooN on Feb 26, 2020 17:20:16 GMT
My thanks to all respondants folks, and in light of same I feel some qualification is required.
Yup, I am indeed listening to music on a daily basis, for the most part lossless files via a couple of portable players, Viz an Astell&Kern A&ultima SP1000M. Also as a major sports head I tend to listen to Sports commentaries and talkSPORT a good deal of the day.
For my part I realised a couple of years back that I was spending way too much time, and not exactly loose change, in constantly honing my main system in the quest for that extra percentage of percieved improvement. There is no doubting my mind that the audio playback of media I was achieving via this system was pretty spectacular however I began regarding it almost as a science project, spending way too much time evaluating rather than listening.
In the three years since walking away I have significantly increased my time spent attending Rugby Union and League matches during the winter and 1st class cricket during the summer months plus my golf handicap is now down to 4 strokes and my tennis and Squash have also improved not to make an arse of myself on the court.
I have also drastically increased my attendance of live music performances, mostly Opera ( Major Wagner Addict ) and Classical from the Met to La Scala and back to the ROH and Wigmore Hall.
On reflection I feel somewhat liberated from the OCD levels of addiction that HiFi can manifest itself upon ones psyche.
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 26, 2020 17:34:09 GMT
No, I'm a happy audiophool - I love system building and trying out new gear. But, yes, it would be easy to get carried away and go OTT in the £££££ department - so I agree an annual nett budget with the mrs. Sometimes it's fun to spend lots (my speakers come to mind), sometimes I am amazed at what good gear you can get for just a few tens of £. Two parallel and complimentary hobbies - music and hifi. If it's not fun anymore, stop doing it.
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Post by John on Feb 26, 2020 17:37:47 GMT
It sounds like you have a good balance in your life. Chasing the next level of improvement can be addictive.
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 26, 2020 17:50:19 GMT
... and sometimes it's good to go 'backwards'. I can't believe how happy I am with 20 year old digital (and preamp) tech in my Lexicon processors (I now have 3 ) . In my opinion, the current chase for ever better DAC specs has lost its way - kind of reminds me of the Distortion Wars the Japanese amp manufacturers went in for in the 70s and 80s. THD now 0.00000000000000000000000001% Wow. ... but it still didn't sound like music. Heresy Alert !! .... I think you can have too much transparency and slam and resolution and all that stuff. That's not the path to the music for me.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 26, 2020 17:56:01 GMT
Heresy Alert !! .... I think you can have too much transparency and slam and resolution and all that stuff. That's not the path to the music for me. Gosh that's a turnaround from Jerry of recent vintages! Ditching the vinyl and enjoying streaming has given me the most healthy relationship with both the gear and music I have had for many years. I'm discovering as much new (and old) music as I want and can listen without being stressed about where the next click and pop is going to be ...
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Post by user211 on Feb 26, 2020 19:20:32 GMT
Have you ever experienced a road to Damascus moment of clarity and asked yourself WTF am I doing spending inaudament amounts of time and in some cases monies chasing the audio Dragon? For my part I have not bothered setting up my main system for the best part of three years now and do not really miss it!
Sell it. Really. That's a shame I think. Someone else will probably really enjoy it.
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Post by user211 on Feb 26, 2020 19:21:58 GMT
... and sometimes it's good to go 'backwards'. I can't believe how happy I am with 20 year old digital (and preamp) tech in my Lexicon processors (I now have 3 ) . In my opinion, the current chase for ever better DAC specs has lost its way - kind of reminds me of the Distortion Wars the Japanese amp manufacturers went in for in the 70s and 80s. THD now 0.00000000000000000000000001% Wow. ... but it still didn't sound like music. Heresy Alert !! .... I think you can have too much transparency and slam and resolution and all that stuff. That's not the path to the music for me. That Lexicon stuff was expensive and proof that quality generally stands the test of time I recks.
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