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Post by tarzan on Feb 21, 2020 12:19:33 GMT
Hi all, been doing some tube rolling and have used a Gold Lion ECC83 and found this to be nice, and also a Mullard ECC83 M8137 this too was nice, however are there any ECC83s out there that sound even smoother and fuller than the two mentioned.
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Post by jandl100 on Feb 21, 2020 19:31:53 GMT
TAD 12ax7 is impressively 3D and clear and dynamic, I have two in my Primaluna amp.
I don't do smooth, so the TAD may not be to your taste, Andy.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 21, 2020 23:20:00 GMT
Tubes are such a personal choice but the very best that I have had are 60’s Tungsram with red lettering to denote milltary issue.
I have a couple in my phono stage. Rare and quite expensive now though …
Rather like Jerry I'm not into smoothies like Mullards - these are much more dynamic and fuller sounding to my ears.
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 21, 2020 23:50:38 GMT
Brimars and Mazdas may offer variations on the Mullard theme.
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Post by Firebottle on Feb 22, 2020 8:20:23 GMT
Recently had the nod towards General Electric 12AX7WA, stocked by Watford valves.
Very good.
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Post by mad4it on Mar 1, 2020 16:04:10 GMT
What is it for? I've recently taken delivery of an Aqua La Scala DAC and the designer recommended these - www.hotroxuk.com/genalex-gold-lion-12at7-ecc81.html. I think they first used Mullard....I get the feeling this company do do a lot of experimenting to get the best result for their products. Certainly this DAC has blown me away, so I've got 2 sets of matched pair in stock. I leave my DAC on all the time...so I'll be lucky to get a year out of a set! |
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Post by jandl100 on Mar 1, 2020 17:10:09 GMT
What is it for? I've recently taken delivery of an Aqua La Scala DAC and the designer recommended these - www.hotroxuk.com/genalex-gold-lion-12at7-ecc81.html. I think they first used Mullard....I get the feeling this company do do a lot of experimenting to get the best result for their products. Certainly this DAC has blown me away, so I've got 2 sets of matched pair in stock. I leave my DAC on all the time...so I'll be lucky to get a year out of a set! Different valve, not a substitute for a ecc83/12ax7. |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 1, 2020 17:33:14 GMT
I've read good things about Gold Lions - was going to try their GZ34 but then decided to move on the tube pre ...
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Post by tarzan on Mar 3, 2020 11:31:22 GMT
Tubes are such a personal choice but the very best that I have had are 60’s Tungsram with red lettering to denote milltary issue. I have a couple in my phono stage. Rare and quite expensive now though … Rather like Jerry I'm not into smoothies like Mullards - these are much more dynamic and fuller sounding to my ears. Sorry Jules the Tungsram are fuller than the Mullards? |
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 3, 2020 12:25:43 GMT
I think ‘fuller’ is a maybe difficult word to define and means different things to different people - the Tungsram are certainly better balanced tubes IMO with greater treble extension. Certainly more neutral, dynamic and ‘realistic’ to my ears but if you prefer a more traditional, warm tube sound I would stick with Mullard / Brimar and the like … When I was buying tubes I always found this guide to be very useful indeed, if you haven’t come across it already; it has masses of useful comparisons. www.audioasylum.com/scripts/d.pl?audio/faq/joes-tubes.html |
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Post by tarzan on Mar 4, 2020 13:17:31 GMT
Thank you all for the replies. |
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Post by tarzan on Mar 26, 2020 11:45:07 GMT
Just popped the Mullard M8137 back in and have realised what a lovely sounding valve this is. |
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Post by TheMooN on Mar 26, 2020 13:50:50 GMT
Just popped the Mullard M8137 back in and have realised what a lovely sounding valve this is. An excellent all rounder  |
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Mar 26, 2020 17:14:55 GMT
Yes, can’t go wrong with a nice Mullard. The best I’ve heard are Tungsram Foil Getters, late 50’s - early 60’s with welded plates. Tried a lot of the usual suspects over the years, these are the best.
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Post by tarzan on Apr 23, 2020 21:06:16 GMT
More lockdown fever ( valve rolling ) this one really took me by surprise.... Sovtek 12AX7LPS in the window position of the Vincent SV-237MK- WOW!
A budget valve that sounds utterly musical and coherent- me likey.
Tube rolling is fun.
Stay safe everyone. |
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Post by MartinT on Apr 23, 2020 21:11:40 GMT
I used Sovteks in a Leak Stereo 20 a lifetime ago. They were impressive then, too.
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Post by tarzan on Apr 23, 2020 21:28:54 GMT
I used Sovteks in a Leak Stereo 20 a lifetime ago. They were impressive then, too. Cannot get over how musical they are- if even they lose a bit of tonality of the Mullard, Gold Lion. |
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Post by tarzan on Dec 12, 2020 11:35:14 GMT
Chaps l now require recommendations for a smooth,full and dark sounding 5751 valve please. |
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