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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 12:32:53 GMT
Oh my gawd.
I am rereading all the Dune books for the millionth time and couldn't resist having a quick look at the original movie. Cult it may be but it is also unadulterated shit. I'm quite sure it must have a redeeming feature but I probably blinked at the wrong time.
Its a cartoon and totally unworthy of the book its based on.
I have the others too and may brave them later. The mini series certainly came closer than this rubbish.
I think I remember seeing rumours of a modern version.
Is there anyone here who thinks the original has anything to offer?
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Aug 13, 2014 12:42:49 GMT
Not really. I agree the Sci-Fi channel series were pretty good though.
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Post by John on Aug 13, 2014 12:43:23 GMT
I quite like the music score
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 13, 2014 14:29:53 GMT
The film I know was fair.
Sting in there amongst others
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Post by MartinT on Aug 13, 2014 14:51:09 GMT
The mini series is much closer to the books, if you can ever do them credit.
The only thing I quite liked about the David Lynch film was the steam-punk inventiveness, not that there is any imagery like that described in the books.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 14:51:06 GMT
The film I know was fair. Sting in there amongst others Yup, Sting proving that as an actor he makes a good pop star. That's the one  |
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 13, 2014 17:27:24 GMT
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Post by Firebottle on Aug 13, 2014 20:18:57 GMT
Only read a few books, never seen the movie.
Bound to be a let down as so much is in your own mind.
Cheers, Alan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 20:35:01 GMT
Only read a few books, never seen the movie. Bound to be a let down as so much is in your own mind. Cheers, Alan Alan, I hate to disagree with a mate but if you had seen the film you would understand. Think about Plan 9 from Outer Space and you have the level of achievement. Words struggle to describe the awfulness, not just in the departures from the book but the wooden acting, laughable special effects (OK some allowance should be made for 1984) and the rubbish intro trying to explain it all. Patrick Stewart just looks embarrassed to have taken the money and so joins in the general woody atmosphere, smiling as he does it. You may gather that I am not over impressed. Other films can totally depart from my vision and still be great. Think Blade Runner versus Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep for instance. This one doesn't quite manage those heights. 1/10 for at least trying to film the impossible. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 13, 2014 20:46:49 GMT
Blade Runner was an 11/10 film, epic even in the oeuvre of Ridley Scott, who has made some corkers.
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Post by julesd68 on Aug 13, 2014 20:52:54 GMT
Does anyone remember 'The Martian Chronicles' TV series back in 1980? I was absolutely entranced by it as a young lad ...
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Post by Eduardo Wobblechops on Aug 13, 2014 21:03:39 GMT
Yep, loved it too.
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Post by Dave on Aug 13, 2014 22:25:38 GMT
I like the film. It's hard to do justice to a novel with such scope when there is only a limited amount of time to tell that story on celluloid. On the whole I think David Lynch encapsulated the plot well in the three hours or so that the film runs. It's beautifully and skilfully shot plus the sets are truly epic. Some of the effects are beginning to look a bit ropey but then they were pretty good for their time. I recall reading that Lynch wanted to shoot it in two parts but the studio would only fund the one film.
Kyle MacLachlan portrayed Paul well IMO however some of the casting was rather suspect, Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck? Also, I'm sure the chap who played Duke Leto Atreides was carved out of solid mahogany. I disagree with others regarding Stings performance, I thought he was rather good as was Kenneth McMillan as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. Brad Dourif was also excellent as the creepy Piter De Vries.
Incidentally, I have read Dune but not the others in the series as frankly I find Herbert a bit of a stodgy read, says he who devours Greg Bear novels for breakfast, lunch and dinner... (someone really needs to pick up the film rights to Eon and its sequel, Eternity, or Legacy as it's entitled in the US} 
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Post by MartinT on Aug 13, 2014 22:32:59 GMT
It was The Jesus Incident / The Lazarus Affair pairing that were the heavy duty reads. I got through them and they rewarded the effort but they were tough.
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Post by Dave on Aug 13, 2014 22:37:08 GMT
I just can't connect with him the way I do with other sci-fi authors Martin, which I find most frustrating. It's not for the want of trying though...  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 23:45:58 GMT
Does anyone remember 'The Martian Chronicles' TV series back in 1980? I was absolutely entranced by it as a young lad ... Don't remember that but I really enjoyed Blakes 7. I might buy it on DVD if it's available to see if it was as good as I remember. |
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Post by jammy on Aug 14, 2014 0:10:51 GMT
I enjoyed Blakes 7.
Also liked Logans Run.
I thought David Lynch's Dune was alright at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 4:09:23 GMT
It was The Jesus Incident / The Lazarus Affair pairing that were the heavy duty reads. I got through them and they rewarded the effort but they were tough. We seem to have similar tastes as opposed to that Dave bloke who obviously doesn't appreciate true quality writing  I have all Herbert's books and find him very easy to get into and instantly believable. You are right about this pair though, probably the books I've read least. Good books need revisiting the same way as favourite pieces of music. There is always something new to discover according to mood, feelings etc., quite apart from the comfort of the familiar bits. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 4:12:33 GMT
I like the film. It's hard to do justice to a novel with such scope when there is only a limited amount of time to tell that story on celluloid. On the whole I think David Lynch encapsulated the plot well in the three hours or so that the film runs. It's beautifully and skilfully shot plus the sets are truly epic. Some of the effects are beginning to look a bit ropey but then they were pretty good for their time. I recall reading that Lynch wanted to shoot it in two parts but the studio would only fund the one film.
Kyle MacLachlan portrayed Paul well IMO however some of the casting was rather suspect, Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck? Also, I'm sure the chap who played Duke Leto Atreides was carved out of solid mahogany. I disagree with others regarding Stings performance, I thought he was rather good as was Kenneth McMillan as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. Brad Dourif was also excellent as the creepy Piter De Vries.
Incidentally, I have read Dune but not the others in the series as frankly I find Herbert a bit of a stodgy read, says he who devours Greg Bear novels for breakfast, lunch and dinner... (someone really needs to pick up the film rights to Eon and its sequel, Eternity, or Legacy as it's entitled in the US}
Difficult to agree but if you liked it that's all that matters. The four villains I thought were terribly overacted and just too villainous to be believable (I include Rabban) At least they weren't entirely wooden. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 14, 2014 5:39:12 GMT
My favourite SF authors are Frank Herbert, Iain Banks (his Culture series was epic), Alastair Reynolds (try Pushing Ice for far-reaching scope), Stephen Baxter (only some of them) and Jack Campbell (Lost Fleet and Lost Stars series).
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