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Post by jandl100 on Jul 28, 2019 9:01:55 GMT
I might want to do a few Classical Album Choices for August in an attempt to keep you entertained, and as the July Choice has long since died down I thought I may as well start a bit early .... Vaughan Williams, for me the greatest British composer. He wrote 9 symphonies - many of the best composers seemed to! I guess he is better known for his shorter pieces like the Tallis Fantasia, the 1st Norfolk Rhapsody and the Lark Ascending. Those are fabulous, but his symphonies allow him to more fully express his surging, modern romanticism and emotional power, and also to explore new sonorities and forms. He was a surprisingly adventurous composer in many ways. The symphonies present a broad variety of soundworlds, none seem to sound very much like any of the others. I've chosen the 8th here, not one of his better known works but I find it interesting and entertaining and very characteristically RVW in the later part of his long life. Themes seem to flash and surge in and out, broad sweeps of melody are interspersed with brazen brassy interludes. Not sure I can hear that much in the way of traditional symphonic form, although the 4 movements do follow the usual sequence with a perky scherzo and a slow movement in the centre, but it nonetheless seems to make a satisfying whole. Anyway, let's see what you folks think! The recording (there are many) that I have chosen is on Chandos for its glorious sound quality and for the conductor Bryden Thomson who excelled in British repertoire and died far too young, sadly.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 28, 2019 14:23:03 GMT
I'm playing the Boult/LPO version and I may give Haitink a go later. Vaughan Williams should have subtitled this The "Other" Sea Symphony. The opening calls to mind (for me, at least) a dark and rolling sea.
Apart from the fact that it's English symphonic music by Vaughan Williams so there is obviously no downside I'm torn between an 8 and a 9. It may have to go to a penalty shootout with Haitink.
One thing did surprise me. It's the first time I've played it with the sub in my system, and there are a couple of serious percussion "thuds" in the first part of the fourth movement. I've not heard those before, or not quite like that, anyway.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 28, 2019 14:48:28 GMT
Oooo - percussion thuds - that will get Martin excited!
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Post by Slinger on Jul 28, 2019 15:04:14 GMT
Oooo - percussion thuds - that will get Martin excited! That did cross my mind. Perhaps "percussive" rather than percussion might have been kinder to the musicians though.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 28, 2019 16:05:18 GMT
Thanks Jerry.
I absolutely adore the shorter works that VW is most well known for but have never found the same satisfaction from the symphonies; they always seemed mundane in comparison. It's a long time since I have sampled them, so this a good opportunity to re-evaluate ...
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Post by MartinT on Jul 29, 2019 6:19:05 GMT
Oooo - percussion thuds - that will get Martin excited! LOL! Thanks for the choice, Jerry. I'm playing it now in a quiet office.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 29, 2019 6:23:55 GMT
I absolutely adore the shorter works that VW is most well known for but have never found the same satisfaction from the symphonies I do like the 2nd (London) and 6th (I have the Nimbus supercut) very much. I confess to not knowing the others. This one has started very well with a typical VW soundscape.
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Post by Slinger on Jul 29, 2019 17:23:48 GMT
Nine it is.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 29, 2019 17:25:14 GMT
A fair 7/9 from me.
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Post by julesd68 on Aug 1, 2019 9:10:24 GMT
I particularly liked the opening movement which has plenty of melodic intrigue and surprises. Whilst I certainly enjoyed listening to the other movements, perhaps they don't hold me in quite the same way, though the final movement isn't lacking in power of course with its wonderful brass fanfares.
I almost feel that VW's very best ideas are distilled from these symphonies into their purest form with the short term works. There are indeed some very familiar motifs in this work at times.
I'm going for a good 7, as 'an entertaining listen' describes this perfectly and am now very open to exploring the other symphonies in more detail.
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