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Post by brettj on Mar 15, 2019 20:58:54 GMT
Unbelievable. Such sadness.
All people have the right to be safe.
All people have the right to their beliefs.
And if you don't agree with that, think your thoughts, keep them to yourself and just let others be.
This does not define Christchurch or its people, but sadly it is something our country will be remembered for.
New Zealand grew up in an instant yesterday.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 15, 2019 22:27:47 GMT
Brett, rest assured: nothing that happened today defines Christchurch or its people except for the way they handled it afterwards.
You have my utmost sympathy for your fellow countrymen and women.
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Post by ChrisB on Mar 16, 2019 3:30:35 GMT
I second that Brett - well said Martin.
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2019 4:48:20 GMT
Agree
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Post by Firebottle on Mar 16, 2019 7:02:50 GMT
In no way does this tarnish New Zealanders, of all faiths.
Unfortunately it only takes one bastard terrorist, wherever they are.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 16, 2019 10:30:29 GMT
Nothing to do with any sensible or civilised people.
This one got to me as I see NZ and the UK together.
Time for guns to be reduced massively everywhere around the world.
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Post by Slinger on Mar 16, 2019 14:40:50 GMT
Not to be flippant, but it seems that the guy was an Aussie, anyway, not a Kiwi.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 16, 2019 15:53:48 GMT
Saw that.
From what I know they consider each other close
Brett, what are your thoughts ?
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Post by brettj on Mar 17, 2019 6:43:05 GMT
The main problem I see is that he was on no watch list for either country.
Seems the amount of white supremacist chatter is rampant on the internet.
No-one has the resources to follow it.
There is a small consolation that he worked alone.
But still, sure to be many supporters.
Our Prime Minister is talking about tightening gun control in the country.
A very good move.
Australia, New Zealand?
We don't really like each other much.
But it's kind of superficial really.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 17, 2019 10:07:25 GMT
In old New Scientist mags 2013 into 2014 - I'm catching up - there are more than a few articles about how analysis is or shortly will be done to grab these people.
is the tech there but not the willpower ?
Must be AI that can do something
White supremacists are just another tribal group. Unfortunately some are into killing rather than just mouthing off.
My brother went to Oz for a year but stayed, met and married a Kiwi !
Settled down in Sydney
Choice between Oz and NZ - has to be NZ for me.
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Post by brettj on Mar 17, 2019 18:11:29 GMT
My brother has been in Sydney for 25 years.
The thought of living there doesn't really appeal for me; too many Australians.
I'm sure they feel the same way about us in New Zealand.
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Post by brettj on Mar 21, 2019 9:21:19 GMT
A really good start.
We have banned all semi-automatic weapons.
It is now illegal to own them.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 21, 2019 9:37:10 GMT
A woman with far bigger balls than Trump.
Assume just about any sane NZ government would have done it anyway
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Post by MartinT on Mar 21, 2019 10:45:17 GMT
I think Jacinda Ardern has won a great many admirers around the world.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 21, 2019 14:00:52 GMT
Be interesting to see immigration and emigration figures for NZ in the coming years
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Post by brettj on Mar 22, 2019 0:17:33 GMT
A woman with far bigger balls than Trump. Assume just about any sane NZ government would have done it anyway I can't even imagine John Key doing this...(NZ's previous Prime Minister). |
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 22, 2019 9:42:37 GMT
A woman with far bigger balls than Trump. Assume just about any sane NZ government would have done it anyway I can't even imagine John Key doing this...(NZ's previous Prime Minister). More women in charge perhaps. Young and producing babies ! They don't seem to have the ego problems men have (in the main) |
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Post by MartinT on Mar 22, 2019 9:59:54 GMT
More women in charge perhaps. Young and producing babies ! They don't seem to have the ego problems men have (in the main) Erm, I wouldn't put our current PM in that camp  |
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Post by brettj on Mar 22, 2019 10:03:08 GMT
Our last two female PMs have been great for New Zealand.
Both exceedingly smart.
I had a lot of time for Helen Clark...
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 22, 2019 10:03:58 GMT
More women in charge perhaps. Young and producing babies ! They don't seem to have the ego problems men have (in the main) Erm, I wouldn't put our current PM in that camp Not so young and been in politics a long time. Probably not of childbearing age either. Makes me think of my lovely step daughter, young and of child bearing age How good a job would she do ....... ? Hmmm |
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