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Post by pinkie on Aug 25, 2014 12:32:31 GMT
Yes Monsieur Hollande wants the fluff out of your pockets as well as the money (financial comment-couldn't care less who it is). Wouldn't recommend to anyone to move to France if you have to work, much better to be retired. Cheers, Alan I think you're right Alan. Of course, the absurd UK position where I can legitimately pay no NI contributions at all, makes the French 50% levy even more of a stark contrast. But I don't make the rules - just follow them, and the situation cries out for me to stay in the UK whilst I earn, paying modest amounts to the UK government, and then retire to France and pay even less, but enjoy the fabulous benefits provided by those who have spent their working lives in France. Lousy place to work - great place to retire to. And I doubt my position is unique. In a mobile Europe, France is slitting its own throat by driving entrepreneurs to other EU states, and leaving itself employees - and largely state employees at that. Its not quite that simple - My absurd social charges are 50% pension contributions into a scheme which would give me a better French pension, but not sufficient value for money with the other swinging charges. So plans to move to France are not cancelled - just deferred. Maybe until I am 62. Or maybe when I get over sulking about the house we wanted and offered on being taken off the market, I'll change my mind again. But not before next year  |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 26, 2014 7:19:39 GMT
For late comers i will paraphrase.
This thread should be called pinks narcissistic ramblings and the content can be summarised as.
The pip preamp is so go it will make you orgasm
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I pay very little tax and no national insurance in the country of my birth but despite this i wish to go to another country in search of some bourgeois dream and contribute sod all and i am really upset that they won't let me. It so unfair.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2014 7:36:59 GMT
It's a good job that narcissism isn't banned here, what with you and your pronouncements about your own intellect!
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 26, 2014 8:27:05 GMT
You mistake narcissism for fact and Narcissism is the pursuit of gratification from vanity, or egotistic admiration of one's own attributes, that derive from arrogant pride. The term originated in Greek ... I use my intellect for good Marxist motives not self engrandisment or to moan about the governmence of another country cause it wont let me leech of it . It should be abundantly obvious i dont wish to ingratitate myself to others and i dont give a toss what people think of me  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 9:36:36 GMT
One of the problems with the ignore systems on all the forums is that if anyone else quotes someone on your ignore list, their posts appear anyway. How on earth is one to avoid the drivel that some of the trolls out there contribute to normal discussion?
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Post by Tim on Aug 26, 2014 10:08:06 GMT
How on earth is one to avoid the drivel that some of the trolls out there contribute to normal discussion? I agree Gordon, I am finding the only effective way to avoid the irksome is to not use forum's so much - of course there's plenty out there that think I'm irksome too |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 26, 2014 10:12:46 GMT
One of the problems with the ignore systems on all the forums is that if anyone else quotes someone on your ignore list, their posts appear anyway. How on earth is one to avoid the drivel that some of the trolls out there contribute to normal discussion? One critiques what they write as one may not change my mind , but one will change the consensus . your rehotoric is simply evidence of the fact you dont like the unpalatable truth . There is currently a big debate in this country about foreigners coming here and sponging and whilst pinkie uses all the tricks in the accountancy arsenal to avoid paying tax here , he as the teremity to moan cause the french wont let him sponge off them . Tough shit and get real . P.s - i am also somewhat confused , as nobody quoted my post , so you appear to have stopped making sense  |
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Post by dvh on Aug 26, 2014 10:26:49 GMT
How on earth is one to avoid the drivel that some of the trolls out there contribute to normal discussion? I agree Gordon, I am finding the only effective way to avoid the irksome is to not use forum's so much - of course there's plenty out there that think I'm irksome too Well, quite. One person's 'irksome' is another person's 'insightful'. Plus, if everyone is polite all the time about everything, the result can be a tad tedious. |
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2014 12:12:34 GMT
Another expression of individual choice and freedom of thought - not much favoured by marxist. I can, and do, choose to use the forum less, and can and probably will choose to accumulate a bit more wealth in a low tax regime, rather than donate it to a socialist economy buckling under the weight of its socialism. The solicitor aspect reminds me of my divorce - well the opening skirmishes - which were a bit fraught. My ex-wifes team (not my ex-wife) were an aggressive arrogant bunch, and having scheduled an urgent hearing at TW court forgot to book a conference room in advance, and went to bully the clerk of the court into making one available. I forget the ladies name, but she was a lovely old girl. "old money" - been in court service all her life, and was now months from retirement, big woman with one of those deep voices, and twinset and pearls - utterly superb at her job, and knew it. With a sweet smile she turned to the bolshy yound solicitor trying to bully her and said "My darling, you continue to confuse me with somebody who does give a damn"  |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 26, 2014 12:36:29 GMT
Once again the point of your ramblings is somewhat opaque . It would seem however, by the use of rhetoric and spurious anecdote , you are attempting to equate my offering a different perspective to your predicament to bullying, all be it ineffectual as you are in gone with the wind mode . Well if this was correct , I woulld simply say di dums , but lets face it, the suggestion is bloody absurd . I would equate your relative affluence with your bragging of your exceptionally low tax/ni payments to be abhorrent and distasteful and your criticism of the french democratically elected governments reluctance to let your sponge of it , jingoistic . In fact just the sort of opinions that could be with a good bullying |
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2014 13:51:37 GMT
You mistake narcissism for fact and Narcissism is the pursuit of gratification from vanity, or egotistic admiration of one's own attributes, that derive from arrogant pride. The term originated in Greek ... Sorry, that is not the case. The difference is the existence of the fact and the informing people of it. It may well be a fact that you have the intellect of an Einstein (or a slug for that matter), but it is the narcissistic use of that fact that I point out. |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 26, 2014 14:19:46 GMT
One sarcastic mention of my massive intellect in response to an attack does not a narcissist make i fear . I will however glance at my reflection on the way home and see if i turn in to a flower . or alternatively - we could have a poll - who does this describe Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today. People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter’s “rudeness” or “stupidity” or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician or the french tax system . |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 15:41:52 GMT
I could name a few people who that describes quite well.
Some on a forum I no longer visit fit that to a tee, but WTF has this all to do with the original subject of this thread?
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 26, 2014 15:48:56 GMT
I could name a few people who that describes quite well. Some on a forum I no longer visit fit that to a tee, but WTF has this all to do with the original subject of this thread? i its about as relevant as your post about kitchen gadgets in the sickly sweet thread . Is that sickly sweet bread you are making in your therminox . |
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Post by pinkie on Aug 26, 2014 18:04:49 GMT
Maybe its because I'm by the med, and we had the dreaded "Meduses" in yesterday, but I am reminded of the story about the 3 men in a boat. No oars, but a 150m long rope, they were 150m off a lush and rich desert island. Unfortunately they were surrounded by circling shark fins. They debated who should swim ashore with the rope and pull the boat to safety "Not I" said the doctor. My professional skills may be needed to administer medical treatment "Nor I" said the priest. I am needed to tend to the souls of any lost "Oh I'll go" said the solicitor - and dived overboard with the rope and swam to shore. The circling sharks all arranged themselves to form a passageway and allowed the solicitor to swim safely to shore - where he pulled the boat in for the others "A miracle - a sign from God" said the priest "Nonsense" said the solicitor - "just professional courtesy" And don't be fooled by fake and pompous claims of knowledge of the classics. The classic in question was "suppers ready" (Thompson on drums). Guaranteed eternal sanctuary man - as long as someone else pays  |
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 26, 2014 18:27:58 GMT
OK enough mischief has been made on this thread now.
It's time to stop with the pot shots.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 27, 2014 7:40:49 GMT
Thompson only ever played drums live. Thus his appearances are restricted to live albums from 77 onwards not studio. Suppers ready is on foxtrot 1973 and Collins is on drums. It is his finest hour and prompted gabriel to use Collins on his 3rd eponymous album famous for forsaking cymbals. My raison d'etre is to assist the powerless done wrong by the powerful. Yours is to diminish the exchequer. And you call me a shark. It is also litigation which is a noble arena as the looser don't get paid and pays the other side . Accountants on no win no fee can't see that happening. |
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Post by MartinT on Aug 27, 2014 9:26:53 GMT
It is also litigation which is a noble arena There is little noble about a society which is becoming more litigious in the manner of the US, where it is used as a form of blaming anyone else for one's own inadequacies, incompetency and ineptitude. |
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 27, 2014 9:36:53 GMT
That is were you are wrong . Civil Law is the sine qua non of a civil society , you have fallen for the crap. The uk is not the us , we do not have exemplary damages . compensation only places you back in the situation you would have enjoyed had you not been injured in the first place , you cannot find yourself in a better place .
you can't claim for your own inadequacy , incompetency or ineptitude , that is total bollocks. For a claim to succeed , there must be a owed duty of care codified in law , some one must have negligently broken that duty of care and you must have been injured or suffered a financial loss . If all 3 don't exist , you wont win simple as that .
compensation is what keeps those with the potential to injure honest , without it , they would be no incentive not to injure workers , patients , visitors , equipment users , shoppers , road users etc . It is no different from prison being an incentive not to commit crime .
The notion of compensation culture in the uk is absurd , if someone does you wrong not only are you entitled to claim it is your civic duty to do so . Nobody suggests we prosecute two many criminals and we have a criminal prosecution culture!!!! , the notion would be absurd . Those that do wrong should be punished , it is a fundamental tenant of justice . It matters not whether they do you criminally wrong or civilly wrong .
As for fraudulent claims , well that is another matter . Innocent people go to prison , we don't suggest we should abandon prosecuting crimes .
people commit all sorts of fraud for money , faking injury is one way of doing it , that is a societal problem not a civil law problem .
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Post by dvh on Aug 27, 2014 9:44:57 GMT
It is also litigation which is a noble arena There is little noble about a society which is becoming more litigious in the manner of the US, where it is used as a form of blaming anyone else for one's own inadequacies, incompetency and ineptitude. Interestingly, up until the early decades of the 20th century, it was the other way around. H L Mencken commented on how, in the UK, it was considered perfectly normal to sue someone for a personal insult, whereas this woud be considered unmanly in the US: 'The Englishman, surprising his wife with a lover, sues the rogue for damages and has public opinion behind him, but for an American to do this would be for him to lose caste at once. The plain and only duty of the American is to open upon the fellow with artillery, hitting him if the scene is south of the Potomac, and missing him if it is above'. |
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