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Post by Slinger on Jan 28, 2019 17:35:17 GMT
6/10 is all I can muster I'm afraid. There was a time I'd probably have awarded it more, but those days are long gone. Tarot Woman was probably the best thing on there, for me. The rest sounded (to me) like boggo production-line metal with nothing to distinguish it from a thousand other tracks from that time-period. On the positive side, at least it was only 33 minutes long.
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Post by Stratmangler on Jan 28, 2019 19:38:45 GMT
On the positive side, at least it was only 33 minutes long. For me it was the template for NWOBHM, and I don't like any of the bands that came along at that time.
I think my main problem with Rainbow Rising is that there is no swing to the music, and the same goes for all the NWOBHM groups. No swing.
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Post by Slinger on Jan 28, 2019 20:06:57 GMT
I think my main problem with Rainbow Rising is that there is no swing to the music, and the same goes for all the NWOBHM groups. No swing.
I think you might have nailed it with the "swing" thing. If I had to choose one word to describe it, it would probably be "clatter." |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 28, 2019 20:52:56 GMT
As I said, Tarot Woman does have a rather good Deep Purple like keyboard intro, but once it gets going it just sounds like formulaic heavy metal to me. Actually, it sounds like a poor man's Black Sabbath but without the space in the music or the inventiveness. And they are from the same period before I get 'straw man' accusations again  |
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Post by Slinger on Jan 28, 2019 21:32:15 GMT
...And they are from the same period before I get 'straw man' accusations again Don't worry, Martin. I only make those sort of accusations when they're valid.   |
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 28, 2019 21:44:22 GMT
I can't hear a Sabbath connection at all with this album but then, not that genres matter, I never thought of Rainbow as a metal band either ...
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Post by John on Jan 28, 2019 21:48:03 GMT
This certainly one that seems to split opinions
I grew up with the NWOBHM (Nights at the Bandwagon, the Sound house tapes and the Diamond Head White album) so no issues on that front for me
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Post by MartinT on Jan 28, 2019 22:00:40 GMT
I can't hear a Sabbath connection at all Tarot Woman, just after the intro? |
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 28, 2019 22:14:20 GMT
I can't hear a Sabbath connection at all Tarot Woman, just after the intro? I don't hear it Martin, but as ever we all hear differently! |
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Post by Slinger on Jan 28, 2019 22:31:50 GMT
I hear the "Sabbath" thing too.
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 29, 2019 5:44:27 GMT
I don't recall ever hearing this album before.
I think it came along a couple of years too late for me, this would have been a great hit in the 6th form common room where a lot of Deep Purple was played.
Listening now at 5.25 in the a.m. on headphones - I suspect the music needs the chest cavity to vibrate, so I'll give it another virtual spin later on the speakers.
But yes, I can hear where Tony is coming from with 'you are delivered 5 musicians at their peak, enjoying themselves and having fun. Which for me, is a great recipe for wonderful music.'
Listening at the moment to the sweeping buildup and final chorale of Stargazer - defo classically inspired to my ear.....
.... OK, first listen complete.
Great intro to Tarot Woman, and Stargazer and A Light in the Black are superb rock, imo.
Tracks 2-4 seem like fillers to me while the band and song writer find their mojo.
So a mix of 10/10 and 4/10 for me.
... but will try on speakers later.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 29, 2019 6:09:42 GMT
6th form common room where a lot of Deep Purple was played. Ours, too, and Sabbath, Uriah Heep, etc! |
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 29, 2019 6:14:57 GMT
Deep Purple and Wishbone Ash are my abiding memories of the 6th year common room.
And Yes, I never could hear the point of Yes. Great cover art, though.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 29, 2019 6:49:33 GMT
Whoa, Yes are the most classically influenced of all the big Prog bands (apart from the dreadful Sky).
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 29, 2019 6:57:02 GMT
Are you forgetting ELP, Martin?
(I wish I could!)
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Post by MartinT on Jan 29, 2019 7:02:00 GMT
Yes I was, but never for long. Love ELP!
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 29, 2019 7:30:15 GMT
Whoa, Yes are the most classically influenced of all the big Prog bands (apart from the dreadful Sky). Hmm, OK. It's been over 40 years since my last listen, time for a replay? Playing Topographic now. My goodness, what irritating vocals.  And jazzy synths.  The whole vibe is nauseating. Now I remember why I didn't like Yes.  All I hear is jazz influence, not classical. - well, maybe if I can think of some really irritating classical .... that's it. Poulenc. Poulenc must have influenced Yes. |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 29, 2019 8:27:11 GMT
No, no, not Topographic! That's a tough album even for fans!
Try The Gates of Delirium from Relayer. That's a proper mini symphonic movement.
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Post by Barrington on Jan 29, 2019 9:08:00 GMT
Try The Gates of Delirium from Relayer. Martin try it from Yesshows they had perfected it by then , I can never get on with the Relayer version. |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 29, 2019 9:41:36 GMT
Agreed, that's a good live version.
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