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Post by John on Jan 10, 2019 10:30:11 GMT
I get confused from 16 to 40 I averaged 2 concerts a week bought about 3 albums a week and never experienced a HI-FI show but now have some expensive gear and changed my system over the years I am now an audiophile and no longer a music lover 😉
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 10, 2019 10:45:47 GMT
Better kit is the key to more music.
If I wasn't addicted to music I wouldn't bother with kit - at all
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 10, 2019 10:56:28 GMT
I can say for certain that using Spotify now has changed things for me and not just the obvious choice of music available.
Collecting records for me was as a hobby in itself, a vinyl fetish if you like, whereby the physical media is very important indeed.
Now that I'm not so deeply entrenched in gatefold sleeves, half-speed masters, 1st pressings etc etc then inevitably I'm more focused on the music and not the media.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 10, 2019 11:30:26 GMT
I get confused from 16 to 40 I averaged 2 concerts a week bought about 3 albums a week and never experienced a HI-FI show but now have some expensive gear and changed my system over the years I am now an audiophile and no longer a music lover 😉 Hah! They are simply not mutually exclusive as far as I'm concerned. I mirror the many concerts I attended - both rock and classical - which keeps it real. The facility to reproduce music at home is a wonderful resource that we should never take for granted. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 11:31:06 GMT
Careful we are getting dangerously near musical snobbery here  John, no one on this planet could define you an audiophile please take heart in that  Oddly enough there are a couple of classical music snobs on AOS which if you think is a contradiction in terms The main difference between musical snobbery and lovers of music is a REAL PASSION pure and simple. I just do not have the energy to listen to musical bores on any genre' they redefine the term anorak, more tea Vicar? I will redefine this further, audiophiles have limited music collections of which contain the usual dross heard at shows, demo's and even at hotel conferences Just off to rub mist into my grey bread, pick up the Guardian have the trench coat dry cleaned and the Volvo valeted remember you guys only see glimpses of them at show's it's all year round for us In fact some of them challenge Jag owners for outright anality! A great many audiophiles systems are far in excess of £60k, something they feel is mutually exclusive. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 10, 2019 11:42:17 GMT
Tony According to Poet boss sitting next to me your post above has, in poetical terms musicality (!) poetic merit BTW. Do Saab owners not get a look in there ?  |
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Post by John on Jan 10, 2019 11:56:34 GMT
I don't think I either appreciate music anymore or less since I first got into it. That passion has remained the same.
Thanks Tony I have the least audiophile system here I guess.
What has changed is that sense of getting closer to that illusion of musical truth
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 12:01:57 GMT
What has changed is that sense of getting closer to that illusion of musical truth This is one big difference between audiophiles and those that have a passion for music, they wish to further the appreciation of their passion, whereas the audiophile has an obsession which usually takes over the person into a single minded individual which then become the fully fledged neurosis. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 10, 2019 12:20:53 GMT
Careful we are getting dangerously near musical snobbery here John, no one on this planet could define you an audiophile please take heart in that Oddly enough there are a couple of classical music snobs on AOS which if you think is a contradiction in terms The main difference between musical snobbery and lovers of music is a REAL PASSION pure and simple. I just do not have the energy to listen to musical bores on any genre' they redefine the term anorak, more tea Vicar? Where is the musical snobbery here Tony? You mention music snobs and music bores, two completely different things but both afflictions that can run in tandem. My definition of a music snob is someone who believes that their preference in music is somehow more valid and 'better' than yours or mine. That doesn't mean that they don't have a real passion for their music - I have met such people who are utterly passionate about 'their music', the problem being that it is to the exclusion of anything else having real merit. What is a music bore? When talking about classical music I am very happy to analyse the way a performer plays in some detail down to very subtle nuances, however, I would not seek to inflict this on anyone who isn't interested. On the internet you have a simple choice of whether to read something or not. Face to face it's a different matter of course and you have to be sensitive enough to know when you might be boring someone! |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 10, 2019 12:25:44 GMT
I confess to being a music bore. May even be a snob. Most would judge the amount of listening I do as OCD and I only have 4 systems |
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Post by John on Jan 10, 2019 12:44:37 GMT
Tony said "whereas the audiophile has an obsession which usually takes over the person into a single minded individual which then become the fully fledged neurosis".
I often joke that it can be like a addiction
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Post by MartinT on Jan 10, 2019 12:49:21 GMT
Most people who are not audiophiles/music lovers cannot understand the act of listening to music as a pursuit in its own right. "What, you just sit there?" is a typical response. No, I don't just sit there: I'm listening, learning, engaging my emotions, reminiscing, comparing and many other thoughts. I call it my fix: better than any drugs.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 10, 2019 12:50:12 GMT
I often joke that it can be like a addiction Snap! |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 10, 2019 14:07:30 GMT
Most people who are not audiophiles/music lovers cannot understand the act of listening to music as a pursuit in its own right. "What, you just sit there?" is a typical response. No, I don't just sit there: I'm listening, learning, engaging my emotions, reminiscing, comparing and many other thoughts. I call it my fix: better than any drugs. So often I was told I must take drugs - as I went to music festivals Correction : The music was what I went for and all I needed (plus food, drink, the right clothes) |
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Post by Slinger on Jan 10, 2019 14:44:25 GMT
I often joke that it can be like a addiction Snap! As I said... I'm happy to bore the arse off of anyone about decent mid-sixties to late seventies music, by the way. I also used to collect (proper, vinyl,) records, but the fun was split between grabbing limited edition coloured vinyl, picture disc, or picture cover in the case of 45s, records, and unearthing little gems in the local charity shops. I was only ever obsessive about collecting one particular album, and that was in spite of its rarity rather than because of it. It took me three-and-a-half years, but I got it. Less than a month later it was released on a budget UK label.  I still have white-label U.S. DJ copy though.  |
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Post by John on Jan 10, 2019 14:51:12 GMT
With my taste in music I can't be a music snob
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 14:51:12 GMT
Oh the joys of vinyl, still have that picture cover of the Tigers of Pang Tang Love potion no.9. did I actually admit that!
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Post by John on Jan 10, 2019 14:54:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 15:30:07 GMT
So Do I actually a really good gig some 37 years ago owwwwwwwwwwww |
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Post by Pinch on Jan 11, 2019 14:32:24 GMT
I've never really identified as audiophile, not sure why, perhaps it's just a generational thing. In any case, my means aren't really compatible with rampant audiophilia. I do have somewhat obsessive tendencies, though, which manifest in a rather general way through my interest in music and its history, but also in a more specific way in my desire to optimise my experiences of listening to music, and obviously one way I've pursued the latter is through paying an above-average level of attention to gear and the playback chain. I do find that side of things a little tiresome, but for the most part (not always) the ends have justified the means - I'm able to have more engaging experiences of listening to music than I might otherwise have done. I do really bloody love nice turntables though - simply as objects, but I consider that a separate fetish.
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