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Post by MartinT on Nov 20, 2018 12:35:43 GMT
This is a mini review of the Spotfire interconnects which I had for two nights before sending them on for further evaluation. I compared them with my Black Cat Neo Morpheus, which retailed for around £200 when new, and ran them between my DAC and preamp, so running a full line level signal and therefore (hopefully) quicker to settle down. They were remarkably close in performance. From my notes: Midrange detail was equal with both - highly focussed and projected sound, vivid detail, beautiful vocal quality. Liquid, non-harsh, musical, rhythmic. Soundstage was as close as to make no difference - huge, extending outside of both speakers and depth well behind the plane of the speakers. The sound of the recording space was very easy to hear and air movements easily discerned. Sparkle - here I found the Black Cat very marginally superior, but it was a small difference. Detail in castanets, bells, blocks, triangles etc. just a touch more prominent. Bass power and extension - here the Spotfire had just the slightest more foundation and tightness creating really excellent power and potency in the music. It's hard even determining the above, so close were they in their performance. I did go back to my Yannis ConnectLitz for a baseline check, and they both easily outperformed the ConnectLitz. I understand the price to be £155, which makes them in relative terms extremely good value for money and in absolute terms very good cables capable of holding their own in a high end system. You can direct any questions about the cables here or PM Oliver directly bigman80  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 13:09:23 GMT
Change your black cats rca plugs to matching Eichmann's then report back Martin
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Post by MartinT on Nov 20, 2018 13:12:29 GMT
Have you seen how Chris Sommovigo assembles the Black Cats? There is no way I'm going to play around with re-terminating them  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 13:19:07 GMT
Yes I know and I have not an easy task!
The Eichmann (KLE) plugs give a very distinctive type of sound-stage and focus (especially the Silver harmony and absolute Harmony versions)which have a big say on the sound of what ever cable they are attached to.
We used to go through 200+ a month of the original Eichmann's as they work, these days I just use them for application only, and not rca interconnects as they detract too much from what I wish to achieve in sonic terms. They are very good plugs for the outlay and easy to terminate.
If you did change the ends you will properly find the tables are turned.
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Post by MartinT on Nov 20, 2018 13:21:43 GMT
Good information, thanks!
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Post by jandl100 on Nov 20, 2018 15:08:56 GMT
I had a pair of SPOTFIRE on loan a few months back.
Very impressed with the clarity, openness and precision of the sound.
I decided not to invest as in my system they moved me a bit too close to the performers. Not entirely comfortable.
Nonetheless impressive, and I would recommend anyone to have a go with the dem pair. They may well suit!
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Post by julesd68 on Nov 20, 2018 15:14:59 GMT
I'm on the list for the dem pair, looking forward to having a listen.
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Post by bigman80 on Nov 28, 2018 7:53:53 GMT
Hi Guys,
Just found this thread lol.
Tony:
YES, you are right. The KLE plugs are influencing what you hear but don't discount the cable. I've put KLE plugs on other cable as a test and the cable, whilst slightly better with the KLE, it didn't make ALL the difference.
The combination is what makes this cable work. There has been a lot of experimentation and this includes using AECO plugs which I felt were very close in performance to the KLE. I use the AECO plug myself because I'm skint 😂
Overall, the main thing for me is synergy. The plug and cable combination is where the magic lies. They just work really well together. Essentially, what they offer is a purchase that represents value for money.
There's no 400% mark-up, dealer costs, overheads etc just a hobbyist who enjoys the process.
Price is £155 for a 1m as the plugs have increased in price recently.
Martin:
Again, thanks for this. I appreciate you taking the time to have a listen and provide some feedback.
The BC Cable is one I haven't managed to hear but reading about them suggests they will be pretty good. Obviously I'd like to hear a pair before I judge.
If you want some KLE plugs on them, give me a shout and we can sort something out.
Jerry:
Again, our tastes differ somewhat. I love feeling like I'm as close to performance as possible. I understand your perspective though and respect it. I was just glad they came out of your house with a good report!! 😆
If anyone is interested in a listen, the loan pair should be back with me in a few weeks. Let me know, i'm happy to let you try them.
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 1, 2018 7:32:59 GMT
I have some, OK but nothing special, the lemmings on AOS who appreciate cheap wires love them. LOL I think you should stock'em. Just slide the pricing decimal point once to the right to add market cred, and it's a WINNAHHHH !!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 9:51:51 GMT
A bit harsh Dave,
They are certainly no worse than a pair you could make yourself with some 1mm solid silver conductors in some ptfe dielectric, I feel they offer good value for money. Oliver is not being greedy.
Understand why they are not for Jerry, but maybe for other people.
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Post by bigman80 on Dec 1, 2018 20:23:40 GMT
A bit harsh Dave, They are certainly no worse than a pair you could make yourself with some 1mm solid silver conductors in some ptfe dielectric, I feel they offer good value for money. Oliver is not being greedy. Understand why they are not for Jerry, but maybe for other people. I'm definitely not being greedy, Tony. The cables are for those who want more materials for their money. No overheads, no profit margins to worry about and no dealers. Like most DIY kit, more performance for your money. No surprise they are "nothing special" in Dave's opinion. He has a shop FULL of cables to choose from. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 20:58:21 GMT
Hi Oli It is all thins to all people, cables are very system dependent and in one system they work wonders in others they may eventuate the core issue Cables of all kinds gave this effect no matter what the system unless it's Naim then all gets are off  Keep up the good work Oli, I started where you are so it's not easy, took me 8years before I could obtain my first industrial ultrasonic cleaner and cryogenic tanks. We tried over 50 plugs before deciding on which base units to use now. However we to perform many treatments on them before finial assembly. we acid etch, u/clean and plate our plugs before finial Cryogenic bathing. Still on the Krell? |
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Post by bigman80 on Dec 1, 2018 21:54:30 GMT
Hi Oli It is all thins to all people, cables are very system dependent and in one system they work wonders in others they may eventuate the core issue Cables of all kinds gave this effect no matter what the system unless it's Naim then all gets are off Keep up the good work Oli, I started where you are so it's not easy, took me 8years before I could obtain my first industrial ultrasonic cleaner and cryogenic tanks. We tried over 50 plugs before deciding on which base units to use now. However we to perform many treatments on them before finial assembly. we acid etch, u/clean and plate our plugs before finial Cryogenic bathing. Still on the Krell? Tony, thanks for the positivety. I will continue to try and offer people the chance to try whatever I put together, or can get people to donate to me (Bigbottle phonostage) to put together. It's not something I'm looking to make a living out of so i have the freedom to do whatever takes my fancy. It's just a nice thing to do, I think anyway. You obviously have put a lot of effort and research into your stuff, hopefully I can hear some one day. The Krell, Oh yes. I am LOVING the Krell. So far it's been in against 4/5 amps and made them tremble with fear lol. Nothing major mind you, I am delighted with its performance and I hope to replace the caps and signal wiring with some well selected bits. The Kaisei caps made a huge difference so I want to explore that avenue a bit more. |
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Post by tony on Dec 2, 2018 17:32:55 GMT
ive had the spotfires for quite a while in my av set up...they are pretty neutral-with my main rig and a google chromecast audio they are a surprise.
soundstage is exceptional, no sonic nasties-a fine coctail of plugs/cable/solder....lots of hours on mine
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Post by bigman80 on Dec 2, 2018 23:38:40 GMT
ive had the spotfires for quite a while in my av set up...they are pretty neutral-with my main rig and a google chromecast audio they are a surprise. soundstage is exceptional, no sonic nasties-a fine coctail of plugs/cable/solder....lots of hours on mine Thanks Tony! Always nice to get a bit of positivity about the cables. I made a XLR to XLR mono length for a guy a couple of weeks back. He's using it in his AV rig too. I was hoping to get some feedback from him on how they perform in an AV rig so this was good timing 😊 |
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Post by The Brookmeister on Dec 5, 2018 16:09:42 GMT
Famously made in a shed in Huddersfield LOL May do a mini bake off shortly between these and the SPOTIFY interconnects I have. I think without sounding snobby the better the system the easier it is to notice differences in cables. I put the Spotify cables on my squeezebox the other day going into a £25 grand Soulution pre amp just for a laugh. Music was running off an SD card in the touch and it sounded exceptionally good, how much of that was down to the cables who knows but nevertheless a result.  |
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Post by bigman80 on Dec 5, 2018 17:18:04 GMT
Famously made in a shed in Huddersfield LOL May do a mini bake off shortly between these and the SPOTIFY interconnects I have. I think without sounding snobby the better the system the easier it is to notice differences in cables. I put the Spotify cables on my squeezebox the other day going into a £25 grand Soulution pre amp just for a laugh. Music was running off an SD card in the touch and it sounded exceptionally good, how much of that was down to the cables who knows but nevertheless a result. Arent all cables made in a shed!? 😜 'SPOTIFY' interconnects? I'm confused? Do you mean the SPOTFIRE cable? Your '71' cables are silver aren't they? |
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Post by The Brookmeister on Dec 5, 2018 17:58:58 GMT
LOL thought you had a sense of humor dude?
Spotfire or Spotify who cares?
7N Japanese silver dude.
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Post by bigman80 on Dec 5, 2018 18:04:38 GMT
LOL thought you had a sense of humor dude? Spotfire or Spotify who cares? 7N Japanese silver dude. I do!! Was just checking 😊 £20k preamp!! I think that could be the most expensive piece they have been in. I agree with the 'better the system, easier it is to tell' theory. Japanese Silver! Very posh. Do you prefer silver in your own system Dave? I've never caught the Silver bug. Daft question, where do you get your fancy heatshrink!? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 19:39:29 GMT
Dave
Only £20k got a pre amp now I am a little disappointed you must do better!
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