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Post by julesd68 on Oct 15, 2018 16:41:14 GMT
Vintage loudspeakers can often sound superior to modern speakers, depending on your preference of voicing of course.
Not having any experience with vintage cans, I'm wondering if they are the same or whether the technology has moved on further?
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Post by John on Oct 15, 2018 16:51:13 GMT
I think it's much the same with the fee I tried
I am not the greatest headphone fan for me a needs must if I do use them
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 15, 2018 17:18:54 GMT
I have tried a few well thought of vintage cans and they have been notably opaque and also usually rolled off at the top end (which is a mercy, as the top end is often quite grainy). A decent modern pair will be easily superior imo. Then again some people like ancient and outdated speaker designs like Tannoy.  I guess an appropriate vintage headphone could be good for some genres, like rock, where the solidity and power of a good vintage design can be impressive, and you're not too fussed about delicacy, openness and transparency. I'm thinking vintage Koss, for example, their 4AA fits that description like a glove imo. Having said all that, if you can get your hands on a pair of Wharfedale Isodynamics grab 'em quick - fantastic things! Easily the equal of the lower end of modern planar magnetics although they do lose out in the bottom octave of bass. But they are very inefficient and need serious amounts of power and gain. |
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 15, 2018 18:04:27 GMT
OK Jerry that's useful info - for my varied musical tastes it sounds like I should stick with modern designs, apart from my Tannoy speakers, obviously!  Have you tried any of the current or recent AT range of 'phones? |
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 15, 2018 19:27:30 GMT
i've owned ATH M50X and they were OK, but in that used price range I much preferred Beyerdynamic DT150.
How much are you thinking of spending?
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 15, 2018 23:13:38 GMT
Just looking at what could be good second-hand buys to compare with my Phonons, so under 200 quid ...
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 16, 2018 6:56:28 GMT
Fostex T50RP - if you don't mind a little sound leakage. Awesome for the money. www.amazon.co.uk/Fostex-Professional-Studio-Headphones-Semi-Open/dp/B0167XM092I had expected to need to replace the earpads as they are said to be very uncomfortable, but I found them to be fine, as did someone else I know who has them. I was so impressed by these that when eBay popped up with a used pair of Fostex TH600 for £300 I bought them like a shot! |
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 16, 2018 13:19:39 GMT
Thanks J - those look good but I'm sticking with closed back at the moment so I don't annoy others in the living room ... BTW I'm going to try a different Topping solution from the one we discussed recently - a two box solution isn't ideal for me especially with the dual power supplies and lots of cables. This is their NX4 DAC / headphone amp which although designed to be portable should make a very good desktop unit from what I have been reading - it's also extremely low impedance at just 0.9 ohms so will suit my cans very well indeed. en.tpdz.net/products_detail/productId=25.html |
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 16, 2018 14:52:58 GMT
Closed back. OK. I'd go for Beyerdynamic DT150.
The most soundproof cans I have heard are my Audeze EL8. Cost me £295 used, though.
That Topping NX4 looks cool!
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 16, 2018 16:04:07 GMT
Yes I'm hoping the NX4 will be a step up from my SMSL M3 and will get more out of my Phonon 'phones;
I would like them so much more if they weren't 'on ear' ...
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Post by jandl100 on Oct 16, 2018 16:14:38 GMT
On ears are very uncomfortable after quite a short time.
I couldn't use them.
The Beyer DT150 surround the ear and I can happily wear them for hours.
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