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Post by Stratmangler on Jul 28, 2018 13:24:56 GMT
It hasn't been mentioned, but you might have noticed my absence here in the last few weeks. Part of it was to do with footie (there's been a World Cup taking place, if you didn't know ), but the biggest part of it is down to these fellas reiver-acoustic.com/products.html
I have a pair of the Milburn MkIIs, and it has been nigh on impossible to not play music all day and all night.
I am completely bowled over with what they do - they resolve better than anything I've ever had before.
Because they're coaxial drivers the sound is very well integrated tonally and spacially, and because the mid/bass driver is 10" it is very fleet of foot, so rhythmically things hand together remarkably well. The midband is exceptionally well detailed.
I've been hearing details in recordings I've had for years and never heard before. I've been bowled over with minute dynamic changes in drumming patterns, andI've heard details in backing vocal that up until recently sounded great, but were a homogenised sound - I'm talking of nothing less than Reeling In The Years, by Steely Dan, and all of the BVs can be distinctly made out. There are several distinct harmony lines with different singers for each.
To say I'm pleased is a slight understatement
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Post by MartinT on Jul 28, 2018 14:01:18 GMT
Nice find, Chris. There is little more satisfying than a new pair of speakers that bring you closer to the music.
How did you come across them?
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 28, 2018 14:32:03 GMT
Interesting. How about some pics?! The same make as Edingdales. I heard some of those a few weeks back and was very impressed by the natural, dynamic sound. Any pics around of the bare co-ax driver?
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Post by Stratmangler on Jul 28, 2018 14:41:12 GMT
It's an open secret that I live near to Colin (Toppsy) of Edingdale notoriety, and I get to hear much of Colin and Scott's (Scottmoose) exploits. Colin built my previous speakers (the FH3 speakers, one of Scott's designs).
I mentioned that there was something particularly good sounding about it (and this was with a sub optimal crossover), and it would be interesting to hear one in a properly designed box.
Work continued on the OBs, and they eventually became a finished project.
A good while later on and Colin dropped me an email with some photos of a couple of cabinets he was building .....
A couple of months later still, and I'm delighted to have such a wonderful pair of speakers sat in my living room, and playing everything I throw at them.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 28, 2018 14:51:00 GMT
..... A couple of months later still, and I'm delighted to have such a wonderful pair of speakers sat in my living room, and playing everything I throw at them.
We'd like to see them, too. (Hint )
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Post by Stratmangler on Jul 28, 2018 14:53:05 GMT
Interesting. How about some pics?! The same make as Edingdales. I heard some of those a few weeks back and was very impressed by the natural, dynamic sound. Any pics around of the bare co-ax driver? Well I did say that Colin built them. The drivers are shown clearly enough in the pics wot I nicked off the OB thread over on Audio Talk
And these are of one of the finished speakers
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Post by MartinT on Jul 28, 2018 15:18:39 GMT
Rear ported, my preference over open baffles for a medium size driver. The latter look good and chunky with a big magnet. Efficient?
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 28, 2018 15:20:55 GMT
Thanks Chris. Wow, those drivers look chunky! Is there a make and model for the drivers? -- I'm just curious about them as I am a bit famous in some quarters for disliking Tannoy dual concentrics, so I'm interested in what may well be a much more modern basic design of the same principles. The brochure keeps calling it, rather coyly, a "classic 10 inch coaxial drive unit". Wassat then? A transmission line design - bass should be good if implemented as well as I suspect it is!
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Post by John on Jul 28, 2018 15:46:56 GMT
Great news Chris
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Post by Tim on Jul 28, 2018 16:21:11 GMT
This is very interesting Chris for a number of reasons.
I think 'generally' we seem to enjoy similar music, we don't seem to swap gear, cables and such like seeking the holy grail (not that that's a bad thing, just not my thing) and you describe things I listen for in music, which leads me to think I would enjoy these too. The speakers themselves also tick a lot of my preferences - I like the coaxial design, the enclosure styling and the fact it's shallow, I also favour high-efficiency/low powered amp combinations, which despite what Alan Shaw says, I feel you do need a bit of beef for Harbeth, which as you probably know I like. I have heard some Edingdales and liked them sonically, but not so much how they look and their size, these however I do like. I also really like that they are a bit different and not mainstream . . . fits my personality
So if you are bowled over by them I'm intrigued, especially your comments about the midrange and vocals. I'm in the market for new speakers, so I think I need to hear some.
Thanks for sharing.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 28, 2018 17:00:02 GMT
I am a bit famous in some quarters for disliking Tannoy dual concentrics Nope Jerry, you are famous in all quarters for that!!
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 1, 2018 19:39:58 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Aug 2, 2018 5:20:02 GMT
Monacor - nice. Good chunky driver, that.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 2, 2018 8:01:43 GMT
They handle disco levels without problems. I took them to the Owsten meet a little while ago, and they filled a very large room with sound without disgracing themselves. I've heard many a speaker struggle there, but these just got on with it, and without complaints.
The only negative comment I had was about the Bros. Landreth track I played - one of the chaps suggested that the high end was a tiny bit ragged, and possibly it was due to the volume control on the Squeezebox robbing a few too many bits. I was controlling the volume with amp remote - I don't use the player volume control at all, as it does negatively impact the sound in my experience.
As it turns out the Bros. album was the MP3 download from Amazon, which is where I bought the CD from. I should have checked the SD card content a bit more thoroughly. The FLAC rip of the CD is better in that respect.
Other than that, it was loud and clear, and no audible sounds of strain. There were one of two air drummers thrown when it came to the jungle drums bit on Radar Love - I stuck the album version on, not the radio edit
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