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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 2, 2018 8:54:50 GMT
Live healthy to 100Interesting ideas. Particularly like living *healthy* longer. Health care cost drops by 54% takes some believing. Could do the NHS a favour My religion is music 
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2018 8:57:41 GMT
Mate, I would be pleased if I make 80!
I have no need for deities but music is my drug of choice, and very effective it is, too.
Work stress is against me and I have more work to do in managing it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 8:58:27 GMT
Interestingly I am not overly fussed about living to 100. Given my health condition, I will be surprised if I get anywhere near to that age, but I guess it is worth a try |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 8:59:49 GMT
Work stress is against me and I have more work to do in managing it. <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 34.180000000000064px; height: 3.8799999999999955px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_60257337" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1638px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_58122456" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 86px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_10616101" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.8799999999999955" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.88px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1638px; top: 86px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_53543472" scrolling="no"></iframe> I think this gets most of us in one way or another. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2018 9:03:50 GMT
I should be clear: I would love to make it to 80 but only if my quality of life remains. I have no interest in degenerating into a vegetable or becoming a burden on loved ones.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 2, 2018 9:15:12 GMT
What took me about the video is the longer, *healthy* life.
The reduction in health care costs of 54% I find hard to believe, but that also points to a healthier life.
One mentioned the average life expectancy in the US is *dropping*, except his area where they were upping their game it was going up.
I live a much healthier life than I used to
More importantly I'm enjoying it
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Post by zippy on Jul 2, 2018 11:07:09 GMT
I should be clear: I would love to make it to 80 but only if my quality of life remains. I have no interest in degenerating into a vegetable or becoming a burden on loved ones. I would hope that applies to most of us. These days I think most people should expect to live to 80 while maintaining reasonable health. When I took out an annuity their calculations suggested that I would live to 89, but maybe they just said that to reduce the payouts ! The best way to increase lifespan is to move - if I moved from Northumberland back to Surrey, surprisingly I'd increase my life expectancy by a couple of years, according to O.N.S. If I did that it would of course wreck my quality of life... life expectancy |
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Post by Slinger on Jul 2, 2018 12:45:12 GMT
The best way to increase lifespan is to move - if I moved from Northumberland back to Surrey, surprisingly I'd increase my life expectancy by a couple of years, according to O.N.S. There is, of course, another way of looking at that statistic, as with most statistics. It's just as possible that you moving to Surrey could lower the life expectancy of everyone already there.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 13:17:54 GMT
I have no interest in degenerating into a vegetable or becoming a burden on loved ones. Absolutely, my Grandma lived until she was 93, but was diagnosed with Dementia when she was in her early 80's and became nothing more than a shadow of her former self up until her death. I would hate to go out that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 13:18:21 GMT
The best way to increase lifespan is to move - if I moved from Northumberland back to Surrey, surprisingly I'd increase my life expectancy by a couple of years, according to O.N.S. There is, of course, another way of looking at that statistic, as with most statistics. It's just as possible that you moving to Surrey could lower the life expectancy of everyone already there. LOL that made me laugh, Paul. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 2, 2018 13:42:33 GMT
Back to the OP and simplified as per the video Live longer then die quick |
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Post by seanm on Jul 2, 2018 15:02:30 GMT
There is a longer audio version of this programme here www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswvr7However, I have not listened to it yet... I think this is a really interesting idea.... and one can look at it as brutal economics, sick people cost society money. I *think* that I am slowly concluding that until recently, our knowledge of how food is metabolised in our bodies is poorly understood. AFAIK calorific content is found by measuring the energy given off when the food is burnt in a lab, not in the body. Certainly, carbs, fats and protein take different amounts of energy to metabolise and so a 100 calories of each going in gives the body different amounts of energy to use. So a calories are not equal. The low/zero fat advice given for many decades.... at best it has pushed people towards carbs leading to an increase in type II diabetes, and worse, it has been just plain wrong. As a science teacher, I am interested in how this information is presented to the general public.... I have found recent TV programmes which equate everything to spoons of sugar to be clear and useful. In contrast, food companies, which get away with printing colour coded traffic light nutritional information in B&W should be stopped! Cheers Sean |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 2, 2018 17:53:16 GMT
Thanks Sean.
Obvious to not so obvious
Taking perceived advantages and applying them will probably work. Unlikely to harm anyone.
This is work in progress and will have advantages for those who apply.
Feedback into that process will improve it further.
I want to live longer and enjoy doing it
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Post by Tim on Jul 4, 2018 16:05:48 GMT
I live a much healthier life than I used to More importantly I'm enjoying itMe too, food and exercise has a huge impact and to be honest it's not an overly complicated formula - you just need the resolve to do it. That's the tricky bit and can be very hard to start with. Just gotta keep at it until it becomes the norm. It's all about learning new habits, or it was in my case. The simple thing is doing nothing, but it's clear that the way the greater majority are living isn't working, so we need to change something if we want to improve our longevity/quality of life. Having said that, some don't seem to care. I have a 53 year old Ozzie friend who's huge, he eats terribly, drinks all the time, gets no exercise and is resigned to the fact that he's going to die young. I personally don't understand that, but it's his choice.
My Dad lived to 90 and overall I have a healthier lifestyle, so I hope to get near that. Mum died at 82 from a smoking related disease, having smoked all her life. I'm the only one in my family who has never smoked, which I like to think gives me an advantage, but it's still a lottery. I believe by eating healthily and moving more I should increase my odds. But who knows, I could get hit by a bus tomorrow!
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 4, 2018 17:51:32 GMT
I live a much healthier life than I used to More importantly I'm enjoying itMe too, food and exercise has a huge impact and to be honest it's not an overly complicated formula - you just need the resolve to do it. That's the tricky bit and can be very hard to start with. Just gotta keep at it until it becomes the norm. It's all about learning new habits, or it was in my case. The simple thing is doing nothing, but it's clear that the way the greater majority are living isn't working, so we need to change something if we want to improve our longevity/quality of life. Having said that, some don't seem to care. I have a 53 year old Ozzie friend who's huge, he eats terribly, drinks all the time, gets no exercise and is resigned to the fact that he's going to die young. I personally don't understand that, but it's his choice.
My Dad lived to 90 and overall I have a healthier lifestyle, so I hope to get near that. Mum died at 82 from a smoking related disease, having smoked all her life. I'm the only one in my family who has never smoked, which I like to think gives me an advantage, but it's still a lottery. I believe by eating healthily and moving more I should increase my odds. But who knows, I could get hit by a bus tomorrow!
Many years ago I ate poorly. Tiny changes were easy to implement and these became habit. Very rarely, when they have been brought into the house I try biscuits, cake, ice cream. Interesting to see my body craves more and more. They don't agree with me with the effects are mildly unpleasant. A good reminder not to do it again. What is going on in those with a self destructive lifestyle baffle me. 2 and 2 don't seem to make 4 The getting hit by a bus was often quoted by smokers. Statistically unlikely Both my parents smoked. My dad from 14 onwards. He was gone at 63 due to smoking. |
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Post by Slinger on Jul 4, 2018 18:36:57 GMT
I smoked for the best part of 40 years, and gave up 9 or 10 years ago, I always told my wife that if I didn't feel 'ready' to give up it was pointless for me to try, which was the truth. The only thing that could have made me was bad news from the quack, and despite regular checkups for one thing and another she never even saw fit to ask if I smoked, let alone saw any signs that warranted my quitting. Then I contracted a really bad chest infection. I tried, and tried, and tried my hardest...but I just couldn't smoke while I had it. I went "cold-turkey," and haven't smoked since. It would have been a shame to waste such a nasty infection. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 4, 2018 19:04:37 GMT
You have to be ready Classic joke about giving up smoking I can give up smoking anytime and often do 20 times last week |
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