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Post by jandl100 on May 18, 2018 15:58:43 GMT
Finally! - a use for classical music. An interesting if depressing pair of articles. Classical as a social divider, but also as a definer of aspiration, maybe? Why not just listen and enjoy it for its own sake? Sigh. articles
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Post by julesd68 on May 18, 2018 16:13:20 GMT
I bet you liked this bit Jerry! In the most dramatic account of concerto crime-fighting, the Columbus, Ohio, YMCA reportedly dissolved a sidewalk brawl between two drug dealers simply by flipping on Vivaldi’s Four Seasons.
But on a serious note, it isn’t good news at all. In fact, pretty depressing. The triumph of this symphonic segregation, however, suggests a larger defeat for classical music. We all know that music affects people below the level of active thought, whispering, if you will, to our unconscious mind. Marshaling the inhospitable associations of classical music as a gentrifying force risks further souring the public’s default attitude toward the art form from indifference to avoidance. In all likelihood, the orchestral intimidation strategy succeeds in driving away not only crowds of potential vagrants but also generations of potential audiences. Classical music may now discourage juvenile delinquents and juvenile devotees alike. It deters both loitering and listening.And I can’t believe that we are still struggling to get rid of the ‘high society’ association with classical music.
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Post by Slinger on May 18, 2018 16:55:00 GMT
It's a sad indictment of modern life, although they are talking about the "average American" for a lot of the article, and we all know that the "average American" has the attention span of...sorry...what was I talking about? I've mentioned snobbery here before, and my remarks were greeted with not derision, but certainly disbelief. Yes, it appears to be absolutely stupid...to a bunch of people who like classical music. It's not even a "class thing" like it used to be - top hat and tails and I'm off to the opera because I can afford it, and you can't - mainly because snobbery appears to have crossed class barriers (classless society my arse!) I class myself as working class, when forced to classify myself, but there are people out there who would call me a snob simply for liking music that is perceived as "better" or "posher" than theirs. I would call it inverted snobbery, and it makes not one jot of difference that my accuser would be, in most situations, from the self-same social class as I am perceived to be from. Liking classical music identifies me to some idiots as a snob. It's that simple. It's not right, and it's not true, and I really wish I had the money to be a proper snob. Mind you turnabout is fair play. How condescending are we for "knowing" that if "they" just listened to it properly (whatever that means) then "they" would love classical music like we do?
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Post by jandl100 on May 18, 2018 18:21:13 GMT
Mind you turnabout is fair play. How condescending are we for "knowing" that if "they" just listened to it properly (whatever that means) then "they" would love classical music like we do? Yep, very true. If I just listened to noodling jazz properly you'd need a sick bucket readily to hand or things could get very messy indeed. That's not to say that noodling jazz is not a valid art form. It's just that I don't like it.
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