tonedeaf
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Post by tonedeaf on May 16, 2018 16:05:06 GMT
I've got a number of different headshells 2x Ariston , 1x Sony 2 x others all SME fit and 2 Lenco Arm fit.
My question the all weigh differently and when changing headshells / cardridge combinations there's a lot of pfaffing re-setting the arm
My question is is there a decent do it all headshell that could be recommended for the Ariston ( Jelco SA50 arm) and my Sony PS4750. (No idea what the arm is or its mass)
I have Pickering XV15, ORTOFON FF15 and Shure75 cartridges on the SME's.
Shure 75 and Pickering ( when I can find some small screws, washers and nuts to be able to fit it)
Maybe I'm being too simplistic here and I need to understand more variables in order to reach a conclusion
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Post by MikeMusic on May 16, 2018 16:18:11 GMT
My simple guess is the headshell has to match the arm and the cartridge. I like my Ortofon which I just plug in to the arm. If your headshells don't plug in there will be a load of time to swap over every time. Try a CD or streaming ?  |
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Post by tonedeaf on May 16, 2018 18:16:24 GMT
No they all plug in to both my Ariston and Sony arm, but they all have very different geometry and weight and getting the cartridges aligned can be annoying My simple guess is the headshell has to match the arm and the cartridge. I like my Ortofon which I just plug in to the arm. If your headshells don't plug in there will be a load of time to swap over every time. Try a CD or streaming ? |
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Post by bigman80 on May 16, 2018 18:21:01 GMT
You'll get changes to resonance etc if you just use the same headshell between arms. There is no upside to what you hope to do. The idea is to have a few headshells for the same arm. All set up correctly then its just VTA and Tracking force that needs setting when you swap them. No short cut I'm afraid. No they all plug in to both my Ariston and Sony arm, but they all have very different geometry and weight and getting the cartridges aligned can be annoying My simple guess is the headshell has to match the arm and the cartridge. I like my Ortofon which I just plug in to the arm. If your headshells don't plug in there will be a load of time to swap over every time. Try a CD or streaming ? |
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Post by MikeMusic on May 16, 2018 18:39:07 GMT
No they all plug in to both my Ariston and Sony arm, but they all have very different geometry and weight and getting the cartridges aligned can be annoying My simple guess is the headshell has to match the arm and the cartridge. I like my Ortofon which I just plug in to the arm. If your headshells don't plug in there will be a load of time to swap over every time. Try a CD or streaming ? I'm too lazy to do swapping. Would stick with one |
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Post by MartinT on May 16, 2018 19:12:29 GMT
A good quality general purpose headshell I've used in the past is the Sumiko. It has slots to help get the alignment right, at least for all arms of the same length and geometry.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 19:42:36 GMT
A good quality general purpose headshell I've used in the past is the Sumiko. It has slots to help get the alignment right, at least for all arms of the same length and geometry. I would second this. I also used one on a PS-6750 to good effect. It was better than the Sony Magnesium one too. A used one will probably cost you £30 plus post. |
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Post by The Brookmeister on May 17, 2018 20:26:11 GMT
This is what myself and Dom Harper from North West Analogue would recommend to you. LH6000  |
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 17, 2018 21:44:17 GMT
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Post by ant on May 18, 2018 6:55:29 GMT
I like the jelco one that comes wirh the sa750, forget the designation, it seems to be about the right weight for most things.
I have a couple of headshells, high comp carts in lightweight ones (sme style) mcs in heavier ones. Rhe only oddity is that i found that my heavy magnesium jvc headshell works well with an at440mlb which I didnt expect
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Post by MartinT on May 18, 2018 12:54:51 GMT
Happy birthday, Ant!
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 18, 2018 18:35:35 GMT
If the cartridges don't weigh the same, you'll still have some adjusting of the counterweight to do. And if the the two arms don't have the same effective length, some checking of cartridge alignment.
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 19, 2018 20:35:01 GMT
No they all plug in to both my Ariston and Sony arm, but they all have very different geometry and weight and getting the cartridges aligned can be annoying My simple guess is the headshell has to match the arm and the cartridge. I like my Ortofon which I just plug in to the arm. If your headshells don't plug in there will be a load of time to swap over every time. Try a CD or streaming ? Having read this again, they do have different effective arm lengths. The Jelco is 237mm compared to the Sony's 216.5mm. So, whatever headshell you might purchase, you'll still have the same alignment faff. Never liked the look of the Lenco headshell. This looks pretty cool. Not sure if the offset angle is the same, though. Maybe one of the Lenco critters will know.  |
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Post by ant on May 19, 2018 23:20:20 GMT
That's specific to an audio technica ltp5, its for a straight arm. It won't work on an s shaped arm as the offset angle is set by the kink in the arm tube, not by the headshell itsself. If you put that on an s arm, the offset angle will be almost doubled.
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Post by ant on May 19, 2018 23:21:08 GMT
Lenco arm will only take a lenco headshell. Nothing else
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Post by Mr Whippy on May 20, 2018 0:03:29 GMT
That's specific to an audio technica ltp5, its for a straight arm. It won't work on an s shaped arm as the offset angle is set by the kink in the arm tube, not by the headshell itsself. If you put that on an s arm, the offset angle will be almost doubled. Yeah, I know. That's why I referenced it with the Lenco headshell (obviously only used with a Lenco straight arm) and offset angle. |
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