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Post by MikeMusic on May 11, 2021 10:06:49 GMT
Apple has the wifi built in I thought. Also assumed it was an Apple problem more than wifi
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Post by MartinT on May 11, 2021 10:24:38 GMT
Check your router and signal strength around where she uses the iPad. Will a Windows laptop connect ok with at least 3 bars of signal at the same position?
iPads are not great at getting a good wi-fi signal and holding onto it.
Think of a Chromebook as a super browser. It'll do anything browsery, but it won't run Apple apps.
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Post by pre65 on May 11, 2021 10:26:06 GMT
Apple has the wifi built in I thought. Also assumed it was an Apple problem more than wifi That's why I suggested trying a USB dongle. They are quite cheap on Ebay, many available for £10 or so. But, if you'd rather buy a Chromebook.
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Post by Slinger on May 11, 2021 12:01:14 GMT
As Martin said, Chromebooks run Chrome apps, and the newer models allow one to use apps from the Google Play Store too. The software is (mostly) cloud-based, so you don't actually download very much, hence the relatively small internal storage.
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Post by MikeMusic on May 11, 2021 12:41:09 GMT
Apple has the wifi built in I thought. Also assumed it was an Apple problem more than wifi That's why I suggested trying a USB dongle. They are quite cheap on Ebay, many available for £10 or so. But, if you'd rather buy a Chromebook. Cheaper and easier the better Will it work on Apple ipads ?
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Post by MikeMusic on May 11, 2021 12:41:56 GMT
As Martin said, Chromebooks run Chrome apps, and the newer models allow one to use apps from the Google Play Store too. The software is (mostly) cloud-based, so you don't actually download very much, hence the relatively small internal storage. Good or better on wifi - at a guess if neccessary
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Post by MartinT on May 11, 2021 12:47:32 GMT
As Martin said, Chromebooks run Chrome apps, and the newer models allow one to use apps from the Google Play Store too. The software is (mostly) cloud-based, so you don't actually download very much, hence the relatively small internal storage. Now that's quite a compelling reason for having one. I sometimes miss having a decent keyboard with my Android tablet controller in the music room.
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Post by pre65 on May 11, 2021 12:47:46 GMT
That's why I suggested trying a USB dongle. They are quite cheap on Ebay, many available for £10 or so. But, if you'd rather buy a Chromebook. Cheaper and easier the better Will it work on Apple ipads ? I can't say as I've never owned anything made by Apple, but, if it's got a USB port I can't see why it wouldn't. Have you tried moving the Apple closer to the router ? Or, trying the Apple in a location with known good wi-fi ? It's not rocket science.
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Post by MikeMusic on May 11, 2021 12:52:05 GMT
Cheaper and easier the better Will it work on Apple ipads ? I can't say as I've never owned anything made by Apple, but, if it's got a USB port I can't see why it wouldn't. Have you tried moving the Apple closer to the router ? Or, trying the Apple in a location with known good wi-fi ? It's not rocket science. Don't think ipads have USB. Seem to be sealed and all via wifi. Some way down the road of trying various alternatives. My laptop can be fine and the ipad will not connect. Current problem seems to be the wifi for everything. My laptop worked only connected by cable this morning, next room to the router This afternoon the wifi is back All I did was turn on the Firestick and connect to YouTube - via wifi !?
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Post by pre65 on May 11, 2021 12:59:15 GMT
So, find the wi-fi problem and fix it.
Can you move the router (or wi-fi hub) ?
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Post by julesd68 on May 11, 2021 13:43:49 GMT
Agreed, it's a WiFi issue, not an Apple one unless there is a specific hardware issue with a damaged iPad.
If WiFi isn't reaching certain rooms, TP Link make very good and cheap boosters that are easy to set up.
Of course it's possible you just have an unreliable internet provider.
I certainly wouldn't be buying any new kit until you have troubleshooted the different possibilities.
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Post by Slinger on May 11, 2021 13:54:22 GMT
It's an iPad. They're portable. Find a seat where it works.
Thank you, that will be £75.00 for the online consultation.
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Post by MikeMusic on May 11, 2021 15:17:40 GMT
If only
I am at about Stage 99 trying to fix this. Unlikely you have seen all or even most of my travails
Oddities started big time when the boss wanted to do her art class at some distance from the router. Had connection but not good. TP Link booster improved it to mostly useable.
The ipad used to drop out randomly but rarely, now it is way more often Would not connect to wifi in the same room as the router Sitting next to me the boss lost wifi and I still had it on my laptop
My laptop dropped out very rarely. Following Martin's advice I put in a cable and this works. Wifi not working. Cable connection working - at the same time
Sometimes resetting the router, TP link booster or device gets it back
Router moved and made little or no difference.
The problem/s move around and are intermittent
Cabling to where the boss wants the connection I'm guessing £100s. Have a long cable that might give indications of workability but how long can these cables be ? I can find a hub or two and cable via them to maybe reach the distance
The really odd one The Firestick connects when there is no wifi. It may brute force the wifi to work
Cable connection right now gives 7 PING
15.41 DOWNLOAD Mbps
1.45 UPLOAD Mbps
Wifi gives Result ID 15 PING ms
8.75 DOWNLOAD Mbps
UPLOAD gave a socket error 5 minutes later 13 PING
10.36 DOWNLOAD
1.44 UPLOAD
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Post by petea on May 11, 2021 16:07:08 GMT
Are you able to make a sketch of the topography of your setup, Mike?
I do not use the WiFi that is integrated into the routers in any of my implementations, but this is mainly because there is a Firewall device connected to the the routers and my network connects to that. The majority of the network is wired (including the connection between the apartment and the studio across the courtyard here in Germany and betwween the house and the workhop in the UK: Cat. 6 cable and certainly longer than you would need I would guess) and all of my WiFi access is then done using wirelss access points (WAPs). In the UK (house not office / lab), most of the infrastructure is now Ubiquiti, except for one Linksys WAP (WAP300N). All WiFi in the apartment is achieved using two Ubiquiti UniFi WAPs (UAP-AC-IW and UAP-AC-M), both connected by cable to the network one directly to a Switch next to the Firewall device in the study and the second to a cabled network socket. That was installed from the study up into the attic and across to the other side of the building and down into the lounge to an 'in-wall' PoE WAP which provides both WiFi to that side and a cable point for the streamer, TV etc. In the UK the cable runs in a conduit undergroud about 85 metres to the workshop).
I would not recommend Ubiquiti for your use as it is not really plug-and-play as it were, but there are seveeral that pretty much are and I have found Linksys more relaible than most.
In the studio I have a 24 port UniFi switch that picks up the cable connection from the study in the apartment. That cable goes into the attic, down a disused flue to the basement four floor below the aprtment across the basement ceilings and then underground across the courtyard into the building housing the studio. It then rund up into the first floor and travels 20 m under the floor of the studio to a socket next to the switch. A Linksys switch plugs into that and provides WiFi to the studio (although most things are wired, except an iPad, a Mac Mini and sometimes my MacBook Pro).
Anyway, the point of this is that it should be possible for you to get a wired connection to your out-building if you need that and my guess is that it will be easier than the route I had to take in both cases - the trench in the UK took quite some digging as it need to be about 1 m deep tp protect a water pipe from frost! You could then use a WAP in there for yoru wife to use. You could also try switching off the WiFi in your router and plugging a WAP in to give you WiFi in the house. You might also want to look up Mesh WiFi networks as that might help with any 'cold' spots in the house and might even give you a way to reach the out-builidng as well - although it would not give the speed that a wired / WAP solution would.
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Post by MikeMusic on May 11, 2021 16:21:45 GMT
Thanks Pete
Simple is good. Ubiquiti sounds too big a stretch for me. There are areas of concrete crazy paving and slabs to dig up or I go around the side of the house and fly across the 10 foot gap into the other building.
Just tried a cable that is around 40 feet long. It gives a signal but is not long enough going around corners etc. Somewhere I have hubs / switches that might get me over that
Another alternative that next door has got working is a mobile connection with great speeds that may be the answer when the Plusnet contract is up.
Can you believe on a few days when the boss is over there it just works
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Post by julesd68 on May 11, 2021 16:44:22 GMT
All sounds really tedious for you Mike.
Looking ahead to the possibility of a new 4g router, have you checked the internet speeds on your phone just using the cellular signal in the rooms that are giving you the trouble?
My 4g on Three is hopeless - around 4mb but my Sky broadband gives 60-70mb wired and a reliable WiFi signal.
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Post by MikeMusic on May 11, 2021 18:09:08 GMT
Tedious it is
I'm happy enough as it is but
Work
My Three phone SIM gives a rubbish signal as do most mobiles
Next door's Three super router and SIM gives a very good signal and even better with the aerial he put in
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Post by MartinT on May 11, 2021 18:57:51 GMT
Why not have the same supplier repeat the setup at yours, Mike?
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Post by MikeMusic on May 11, 2021 20:06:26 GMT
Confirming this works next door for an extended period and ready to move at end of contract, August or September I think
Need to be certain this is going to keep on giving what they currently have
If I swap and it turns to sh1t (and how lucky am I with tech ?) I will have to find another answer. Ball ache, time, grind, money, grief
Next door have thrown a few hundred quid at the total answer including the something or other to carry the wifi around the house. (Not called Mesh)
Almost every day we try it there is a different result from utter rubbish all day through rubbish morning or afternoon only to all fine all day long and plenty in between
Rebooting can bring it back or not. Another try tomorrow where I will see if the Firestick has influences on the wifi and other devices
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Post by MartinT on May 11, 2021 20:45:45 GMT
If I swap and it turns to sh1t (and how lucky am I with tech ?) It won't be just you. The entire neighbourhood will blame you for ruining their lovely 4G service!
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