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Post by ant on Mar 7, 2018 11:16:56 GMT
Another issue for mclaren, alonso stops again.... At least they are getting data on what breaks a mclaren And posting not so competitive times on comletely different rubber to everyone else I reckon they have that motor turned down and are using the stickier rubber to offset that. The other issues havent been too telling, a cockup on the wheel nut, a broken exhaust bracket, and the battery issues can be sorted easily enough, the batteries are down to Renault, the bracket should be simple enough to redesign and strengthen. The smoking motor this time however aint good at all if they do have it turned down....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 11:31:56 GMT
I remember reading a interview with Honda around the time of their split with McLaren and they were saying that the reliability issues they were having with their engine wasn't helped by the design limitations of the McLaren chassis.
Torro Rosso don't seem to be having so many issues so far this year, yes they still aren't mighty quick, but they've been reliable.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 7, 2018 15:10:52 GMT
It's beginning to become clear that McLaren themselves should take a large part of the blame for their terrible partnership with Honda. Look at Toro Rosso now! Reliability is the first requirement and speed will come later.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 10:43:25 GMT
One thing that the Winter testing has proven is something I guess we already knew. Bottas is nowhere near as quick as Lewis!
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Post by MartinT on Mar 8, 2018 10:59:49 GMT
Also, Ricciardo is very quick indeed. It's a shame he gets forgotten because of Verstappen stealing the limelight but I'd love to see Ricciardo do well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 13:54:29 GMT
One thing that the Winter testing has proven is something I guess we already knew. Bottas is nowhere near as quick as Lewis! You could give Bottas all the talent in the world and he still wouldn't win. He's just not made of the right stuff. He's a perfect choice for a number 2 driver though. I agree with Martin abiut Ricciardo. I still believe he's a better driver than Verstappen and I look forward to him outscoring him again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 14:37:46 GMT
Yes I like Ricciardo quite a lot and feel he’s good, but doubt he’ll get the same support as Verstappen so will lose out in a straight fight.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 14:59:34 GMT
I agree with the fact he will face bias. He saw off Vettel when he was similarly disadvantaged I'm hoping that he can get a better start to the season which will force RB to keep supporting him.
I also wonder whether Max will start to crack if he's being beaten by his team-mate as the season progresses. It'll all be academic if RB don't have a potential championship winning car though. It's early days but they don't look that impressive so far.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 14:43:49 GMT
How do Williams get about? ..................... They Stroll Sorry saw this and couldn’t help myself
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 19:47:58 GMT
McLaren look set to follow Williams into mediocrity/irrelevance if they don't start picking up wins this year. They don't have an exclusive engine supplier and there are no great choices on the horizon for them either.
Another year without significant wins will likely see Alonso retire or jump to Indycar. If Alonso couldn't win, I don't see them attracting another big name driver. We then have a team with several barren years and no big name drivers. Sponsorship is bound to decline to a level where they will never be more than a mid-field team.
I really hope it doesn't play out that way but I wouldn't bet against it.
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Post by stanleyb on Mar 9, 2018 22:43:20 GMT
In all fairness to McLaren, Alonso could well be flooring the accelerator on the car far quicker than those engines are able to process properly, or were tested to withstand. The other mitigating factor is that Hamilton left them because they were careless in their attention to detail, and have still not solved that nemesis. They have been the most disorganized team in the paddock for many years now.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 9, 2018 22:53:14 GMT
I'm beginning to see that Boullier may have a limited lifespan at McLaren now. He'd be a scapegoat because it all started before he arrived.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 23:05:36 GMT
I grew up with Lotus, McLaren and Ferrari, then Williams arrived as Lotus faded. It's sad to see them decline, but they only really saw their last revival due to Mercedes engines. I had expected Honda to bring them back to winning ways but every year that passes without success is leaving them looking like a lower mid-field team. The only anomaly is the world class driver and huge budget. One will surely walk and the other will have to follow if they don't have a massive turn-around this year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 15:32:15 GMT
So what have we learnt from Winter testing?
Mercedes and Ferrari are quick, but who is quicker? there are people saying that Mercedes is a whole second ahead of the other teams, but I am not so sure.
Red Bull look quite tasty and even though McLaren look as unreliable as ever, they do look quicker than they were last year and closer to the top teams.
Force India looked lacklustre in the test, they weren't slow per say, but they just didn't seem up to the level we would usually expect from them, there are roomers of a name change and buy out, so maybe that distracted them.
Williams look in a better place than this time last year, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with their two drivers.
Toro Rosso were on fire, they were so reliable with their new Honda engine, who would have thought it?, speed wise, I think they were actually quicker than last year, but still nowhere near their top team, Red Bull, but I doubt they ever will be.
Haas looked quite tasty, they were putting in some quick laps. I just hope the Magnussen manages to crucify Grosjean, that would be funny.
Renault looked pretty good, and if they can get that engine anywhere near the Mercedes or Ferrari, we could see them moving up the grid.
Sauber, well their car looks better IMHO with the white and darker red from Alfa Romeo, will that partnership allow them to move from being right at the back of the grid this year?
Interesting year to come. Let's just hope that that Mercedes isn't as quick as some people think, otherwise it'll be another one horse showing and Lewis the champion. Which, even though I am a Lewis fan, would be boring!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 16:52:45 GMT
If the Merc is a second quicker, it will be an even more depressing procession than previous years. The car doesn't appear to suffer on slow circuits, so they will be a Merc (and we all know which one) out in front of every race. Worse still, we will likely see second place taken by someone who is a pale shadow of the real drivers in the other teams.
One can only hope that if such a scenario plays out, it will lead to either new regulations to try and level the field, or new rules to force teams to stop pulling this no1 and no2 driver bullshit. It ruined many years of racing when Schumacher was at Ferrari and it has happened many other times too. It's bad for competition, bad fo entertainment and it's surely bad for viewing figures.
I'd like to see some framework of rules which forbids any team from running a no 2 driver. A bit like the footy rule that you have to play your strongest team. I'd also like to see the two sides of the garage ran in competition with each other. I'd take it as far as banning the other car from the track if the car/driver is clearly not up to the job of competing with his team mate.
If we have the same ominous signs at the first race, I will simply tune out for another season. Hopefully large numbers of others who are fed up with the same scenario will do the same until the issue is addressed with lasting effect.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 12, 2018 20:55:27 GMT
I'm not so sure it's clear cut. If the Mercedes has the overall balance, the Ferrari may just possibly have more usable power and the Red Bull is more slippery. I can see each one liking different circuits. What Mercedes undoubtedly has is reliability. On the downside, it's the least consistent across all tyre types.
Don't take Australia as the sign of things to come, it probably naturally favours the Mercedes. It's going to be a long and fascinating season. And who's to say that McLaren or Renault don't surprise us at some point?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 22:36:52 GMT
Putting aside my disappointment with F1s inability to tackle one-car dominance, what Mercedes have achieved since they came into F1 again is stunning,
I think the recent dominance was made all the harder to tackle when we had the ridiculous token system. I really hope you're right about competition from other teams. It's long, long overdue. It's bad enough that Alonso has been denied a competitive car for the entire 2nd half of his career. If things don't change soon, we will lose more and more opportunities to see Vettel, Ricciardo and Verstappen mount any sort of title challenge.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 23, 2018 10:05:30 GMT
The Mercedes are looking ominously good, Red Bull surprisingly good on race pace, too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 11:06:19 GMT
They are and Ferrari are looking a little behind the front two. But then they could be smoke screening. We know that Mercedes can turn up the engine for Qualifying, so they’ll probably be ahead based on what we know currently.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 23, 2018 11:58:20 GMT
I so want Toro Rosso to beat McLaren - with the Honda engine!
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