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Post by Steve Toy on Aug 15, 2014 10:33:57 GMT
From another thread but relevant here: Damping devices: MusicWorks ReVo 3 MusicWorks ReBounds MusicWorks ReFlex mains block (rewired by Mark Grant) ReVo3 ReBound damping vibration on mains cable entering power amp. Vibration is effectively "earthed" via the structure of the ReVo 3 support. More ReBounds damping mains plugs ReSponse Minis under PSUs (also under mains block) I also have PEEK isolators under the CD transport and a sheet of PEEK between the mains plug and wall socket. I would not describe the effect of all these acrylic and PEEK damping devices as "night and day" but I would say that they reveal subtleties and nuances in the music that can be quite breathtaking at times. If you like better reproduction of things like (vocal) harmonies, texture, decay, dynamics, interplay between musicians, the PURPOSE of given performances by backing musicians, timing acuity and sheer ease of listening, this stuff is for you. www.musicworks-hifi.com/products/
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 15, 2014 12:25:03 GMT
You're giving me ideas Steve
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 15, 2014 12:41:01 GMT
Steve , your rack is just plonked on the floor . Given the attention to detail most Audiophiles pay on the floor/rack interface I must confess to being a little surprised . As I have a suspended wooden floor - my simple wooden table upon which my PT sits , rests on four upward facing spikes . The spikes themselves fit in to holes drilled in to the wooden floor . The holes are filled with ball bearings and silicon sealant . the spikes are then put in the hole and bolted tight . This took me six hours and you just plonk it on the floor !!!
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Post by Steve Toy on Aug 15, 2014 12:52:30 GMT
Steve , your rack is just plonked on the floor . Given the attention to detail most Audiophiles pay on the floor/rack interface I must confess to be a little surprised . The whole design is spike-free and deliberately so. This is a design that damps or rather, grounds vibration both internal and external instead of providing some (limited) form of isolation or mechanical diode effect. Even the screws holding the rack together are either made from PEEK (a type of very durable plastic) or acrylic in the case of the rack I use. Furthermore, if you put the rear upright on back-to-front thus allowing the screws themselves to bear the weight instead of allowing the support beams to slot into the bigger holes cut into the uprights on just one side, this reduces the sonic efficacy of the rack. The whole thing takes about 20 minutes to assemble and another 15 or so to load the equipment upon it and position correctly. There is an option of an additional floor mount for the rack but even this is spike-free. For turntables it is recommended to use a wallshelf unless you have a solid floor.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 15, 2014 12:55:32 GMT
I knew there would be a reason .
cant see it being much use for a turntable and a suspended floor though .
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Post by Steve Toy on Aug 15, 2014 13:05:10 GMT
For turntables it is recommended to use a wallshelf unless you have a solid floor.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 15, 2014 13:07:51 GMT
of this i am aware , not possible though , i also have a bay window . Alas . Could be worse could be a broom cupboard
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Post by jammy on Aug 15, 2014 17:19:55 GMT
I will try putting this as diplomaticaly as i can to avoid hurting the more sensitive members amongst us..... (Though i dont know why i should after ST has the balls to post such vulgar pictures of hifi depravity) That is one bloody ugly hifi set up Steve, it might sing like an angel but its an affront to the Eye....And thats only the fukin cables. And as for the Rack - Well one can only assume thats where the designer ended up being stretched. I wont even mention the clear bits of plastic scattered all over the floor - must be broken off the rack.....!!!
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Post by Steve Toy on Aug 15, 2014 17:37:07 GMT
If you are forced to consider such aesthetic trivia before musical enjoyment I can only conclude that you must be under the thumb at home. As it happens, Mrs T likes the way the kit appears to 'levitate' in the air because the rack disappears when viewed from certain angles. It is a case of function dictating form. The cables are arranged neatly and not like a rat's nest. What's not to like? The last thing I need is pretty hi-fi that doesn't deliver musically.
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Post by danielquinn on Aug 15, 2014 17:48:45 GMT
2% increase in sound quality for a 700% reduction in aesthetic quality. Interesting choice. As it happens there are of course theorists who will argue poor aesthetics is bad for your humanity . Soulless shit impersonal concrete sixties Tower blocks being Aetiological to ghetto culture.
Looks good equals better Sq perhaps.
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Post by Steve Toy on Aug 15, 2014 17:59:38 GMT
Jammy should get some Mana to remind him of work.
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Post by Paul Barker on Aug 15, 2014 18:03:04 GMT
well I looked them perspex cut out's up and they cost £1,500 so it's a life choice I can't make.
I'll just have to muddle on with my eclectic diy efforts.
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Post by jammy on Aug 15, 2014 19:21:18 GMT
If you are forced to consider such aesthetic trivia before musical enjoyment I can only conclude that you must be under the thumb at home. As it happens, Mrs T likes the way the kit appears to 'levitate' in the air because the rack disappears when viewed from certain angles. It is a case of function dictating form. The cables are arranged neatly and not like a rat's nest. What's not to like? The last thing I need is pretty hi-fi that doesn't deliver musically. If your at peace with it Steve thats cool. I on the other hand simply cant abide wires or cables on display, (perhaps it was a calling as im an electrician) unfortunately they are a necessary evil. No matter how nice yer system sounded - I could not enjoy the music in such surroundings. The cables are NOT (I repeat) NOT arranged neatly Steve.....Neat you wouldnt notice em, But admittedly a tad difficult to do with a clear perspex Rack....!!! It doesnt need to be ugly to deliver musically - Pretty hifi can also deliver. I think you should do the decent thing and remove the pictures of "Ugly Wires".............."The Horror, The Horror"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 2:59:07 GMT
Steve, I think its a great looking set up you've got there mate. Can you get peek cut to any shape you need it? I've got some ideas because of you mate
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Post by Steve Toy on Aug 16, 2014 8:08:11 GMT
You can buy the sheets of it to cut just how you want. I think it's 50 quid a sheet but I can't recall the size of the sheets.
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 16, 2014 8:28:10 GMT
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Post by aurender on May 26, 2015 20:43:13 GMT
I've used several different stands over the last few years. For quite a while I used Finite Elemente Master Reference stands ( 2 racks for sources plus preamp, 2 amp stands for power amps) all with the appropriate Finite Elemente feet. Good product, nicely designed.
Last year I upgraded to Harmonic Resolution rack. Very much better and has a positive effect throughout the system.
Currently stand comprises of 5 wide by 2 high SXR with M3 platforms.equipment sits on HR footers and is fitted with the HR damping plates.
I strongly recommend the product!
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Post by MartinT on May 26, 2015 21:20:36 GMT
A photo of your system would be nice to see. Maybe start a Blog in the blog section and tell us how you came about your component choices.
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Post by aurender on May 26, 2015 22:10:40 GMT
Martin, yes, I'll do that. It's been a chaotic evolution which I'll try and justify as rational!
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Post by MartinT on May 27, 2015 5:55:46 GMT
which I'll try and justify as rational! No need!
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