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Post by Slinger on Dec 22, 2017 12:16:14 GMT
After reading about James Levine being investigated for historical sexual abuse earlier this month another big name in the world of classical music, Charles Dutoit, has now been suspended whilst allegations against him are investigated. Dutoit, the 81-year-old conductor and artistic director of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in London, has been accused of sexual assault by four female musicians. DUTOITLEVINE |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2017 13:06:16 GMT
I've just been reading. Sad but perhaps inevitable as we now live in times of skeletons coming out of cupboards.
Dutoit is a conductor I've admired over the years for his music making, but have to admit this casts a pallor over his work.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 22, 2017 13:23:13 GMT
This is very grim and depressing. I fear there are more to come ...  |
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Post by Slinger on Dec 22, 2017 13:34:10 GMT
Directors, conductors, actors, it's becoming rather difficult to know whose work one is allowed to enjoy. It's a very odd situation but should someone's artistic history dictate whether their output is tainted by their personal history. I can't suddenly stop liking something I already enjoy because one facet of it is suddenly tainted. Should I throw all of my Dutoit and Levine recordings out and replace them with second-best examples? Difficult, isn't it. Should I never buy another recording by either conductor? By doing that I'm signalling my displeasure by refusing to add to his income, but at the same time I'm depriving anyone else associated with the recording of their livelihood.
How about X-Men movies? I enjoy the whole Marvel Universe thing, but Bryan Singer directed many of the films. Should I never watch my Blu-rays again, or take a hammer to them?
I wouldn't buy anything new by any of the miscreants, but I don't think I will stop listening to, or watching, the things already in my possession.
Please note that I omitted politicians from my list deliberately. Most of them are hated by most of us even before they commit a crime.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 22, 2017 13:41:26 GMT
Gesualdo murdered his mrs but doesn't stop me enjoying some of the most profoundly beautiful choral music ever made.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2017 13:46:05 GMT
I wouldn't buy anything new by any of the miscreants, but I don't think I will stop listening to, or watching, the things already in my possession. That'll be my stance too, Paul. Dutoit, in particular, has conducted some amazing recordings. I won't stop listening to them but I would give pause to buying anything else of his. |
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Post by Slinger on Dec 22, 2017 15:47:29 GMT
Funnily enough (or not) the final disc in Bryan Singer's X-Men series arrived this morning before I posted the above. I just hope that by storing it alongside all of the other Marvel Universe Blu-rays it doesn't exponentially increase the evil within and infect the surrounding Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, etc. discs.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2017 16:15:38 GMT
You can be sure that I won't be picking up any Marvel infection now or ever!
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Post by Slinger on Dec 22, 2017 18:41:00 GMT
You can be sure that I won't be picking up any Marvel infection now or ever! I never for a moment thought you would, Martin. You older people have a much more conservative viewing ideal. Us kids like the explosions, extreme suspension of disbelief, great 5:1 sound, explosions, 3D, did I mention the explosions?  |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2017 18:43:37 GMT
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 22, 2017 22:14:57 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2017 22:36:55 GMT
The thing is - and I accept that there is no smoke without fire - he hasn't been found guilty of these accusations yet. I do find the jumping-on-bandwagon hurling of abuse by people with no knowledge of the events pretty damned distasteful, too.
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Post by Slinger on Dec 22, 2017 23:10:56 GMT
It definitely is a case of "guilty until proven innocent" these days.
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Post by MartinT on Dec 22, 2017 23:13:51 GMT
Trial by internet.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 23, 2017 0:24:56 GMT
The thing is - and I accept that there is no smoke without fire - he hasn't been found guilty of these accusations yet. I do find the jumping-on-bandwagon hurling of abuse by people with no knowledge of the events pretty damned distasteful, too. I'm not with you here - who is hurling abuse in this case? |
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Post by MartinT on Dec 23, 2017 1:01:46 GMT
The people leaving comments on that article, for starters.
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Post by julesd68 on Dec 23, 2017 1:16:35 GMT
Gosh I didn't see the comments before - yikes!  |
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