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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 14:12:20 GMT
Has anybody heard these wee beasties in action?
If so, what are your thoughts? I have read some good reviews of them, but I have no first hand experience.
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Post by walpurgis on Jul 13, 2014 15:50:56 GMT
I'd certainly like to hear them. I'm rather fond of Graham Slee products. My two phono stages sound superb.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Jul 13, 2014 16:06:28 GMT
Has anybody heard these wee beasties in action? If so, what are your thoughts? I have read some good reviews of them, but I have no first hand experience. BUy one, that's the best indicator usually as to if you will like it |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 16:41:40 GMT
You can sign up on Graham Slee website to a free loan scheme and try out any of his products. The matching pre still appears to be in development.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 17:16:20 GMT
David,
I'd need to buy two.
I'm already signed up on the GSP forum, and I have a Reflex M with PSU1 and a Solo Ultra linear + PSU1.
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Post by daytona600 on Jul 15, 2014 19:59:33 GMT
MODERATION: Scott, are you having difficulty with the forum rule preventing you from direct selling in response to a post? You are not here as trade, there are no trade members. |
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Post by daytona600 on Jul 17, 2014 17:52:09 GMT
i have nothing to do with graham slee & do not sell his products , but i have used them in the past
member asked had anybody heard the GS monos & my reply was yes
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Post by Stratmangler on Jul 17, 2014 20:50:24 GMT
Has anybody heard these wee beasties in action? If so, what are your thoughts? I have read some good reviews of them, but I have no first hand experience. Heard 'em at Cranage Hall, driving some LS3/5a speakers - rather good sounding stuff  They didn't draw attention to themselves, allowing me to concentrate on what's important, ie. the content of the recording. I reckon they'd do a fantastic job aspirating my FH3/Frugal Tweeter combination The amplification setup was fronted by the aptly named Majestic DAC/preamp. |
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Post by ChrisB on Jul 17, 2014 21:40:16 GMT
I heard them at Cranage too, and yes they did sound rather good with those Sterlings and the little subwoofer pillar stands despite the fact that there was a whacking great cabinet in between them.
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Post by Stratmangler on Jul 17, 2014 22:24:54 GMT
Those subs were contributing very little in terms of LF amplitude to proceedings - used alone they were barely audible, yet when taken away from the overall sound their effect was readily apparent. Mr Slee's wealth of experience working in the radio broadcast industry was very definitely apparent with every product in the room. I have yet to hear a product from Graham Slee that didn't sound excellent. I thought his bog standard SL1210 sounded rather nice feeding the mystery preamp too. It was dragging one of those AT-150ANV carts around. I wandered in with an armful of vinyl, and rapidly received an invitation to play it - it's the first time I got to hear my clutch of new records before I got them home |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 7:53:57 GMT
Thanks guys.
I may place an order soon....
I have read elsewhere that they are good. I assume that they were playing at a reasonable level with no signs of clipping?
I was just concerned that 25W is not enough for my speakers. Recommended power is 40W to 140W, and with a sensitivity of 87dB. I think the speakers used by Mr Slee were 85db, so should be ok.
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Post by ChrisB on Jul 18, 2014 7:57:29 GMT
That single comparison of sensitivity figures is not enough information - it's not as simple as that.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 18, 2014 8:11:10 GMT
Yep, as Chris says - you need to consider the overall load presented by the speaker. How the speaker impedance varies with frequency is very important.
25wpc will be fine with some 87dB speakers but will not be enough with others.
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Post by pinkie on Jul 18, 2014 8:30:19 GMT
You also need to consider the sound pressure level you want to achieve, distance from speaker to listener, and overhead - how compressed the recording isn't. My sums came in at 100w to be comfortable.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 8:51:57 GMT
Where can I find that?
Speakers are Cyrus CLS 70.
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Post by jandl100 on Jul 18, 2014 9:15:19 GMT
I've done a quick Google, and there doesn't seem to be detailed info out there. The nearest I have come is a quote from a review "The sensitivity may be lowish, at 85dB/W/m, but we managed decent levels from all the amplifiers we tried, and impedance is pretty standard, at a nominal 8 ohms." here www.rdhworld.myzen.co.uk/smfcu/index.php?topic=492.0My advice is to try before you buy or get an option on a full refund. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 10:00:22 GMT
Buy direct of Slee (30 day return) or get some through his loan scheme. If Cyrus are related to Mission designs I would expect them to work but it depends on room size and how loud you play music. 25W may be a fairly conservative rating for these amps.
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Post by julesd68 on Jul 18, 2014 10:16:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 12:26:18 GMT
Thanks for the help guys.
I'll ask Mr Slee if he does a 30 day return, but I am sure he will point me at the loan scheme.
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Post by yomanze on Jul 18, 2014 12:53:26 GMT
Yep, as Chris says - you need to consider the overall load presented by the speaker. How the speaker impedance varies with frequency is very important. 25wpc will be fine with some 87dB speakers but will not be enough with others. I would argue that impedance curves are way more important than sensitivity. Amphion speakers for example are generally around 86db sensitivity, but don't dip much below 7 Ohms throughout the entire range, meaning that they don't suck current out of the lower powered amps and sound louder at low volumes than their sensitivity might suggest. |
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