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Post by stanleyb on Sept 12, 2017 21:24:59 GMT
I was reading the specs and was surprised to see that it was feature wise nearly identical to the Lumia 950XL. Is Apple no longer innovating, but is instead copying the best ideas and then rebranding them as their own?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 21:58:24 GMT
Whilst I'm an Apple fan, isn't this something they've always done?
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2017 6:01:43 GMT
...right back to Xerox, copying their GUI, mouse, laser printer etc.
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Post by Tim on Sept 13, 2017 9:10:32 GMT
Is Apple no longer innovating . . . I don't do Apple but do acknowledge what they are good at, or used to be. Love him or hate him, Steve Jobs was one of the greatest innovators of our time. Without him Apple haven't really pulled many rabbits out of the hat and everyone else has caught up. But it's now a religion and a powerful one at that. |
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Post by canetoad on Sept 13, 2017 10:24:25 GMT
Let the suckers have their latest toy.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Sept 13, 2017 19:35:35 GMT
Is Apple no longer innovating . . . I don't do Apple but do acknowledge what they are good at, or used to be. Love him or hate him, Steve Jobs was one of the greatest innovators of our time. Without him Apple haven't really pulled many rabbits out of the hat and everyone else has caught up. But it's now a religion and a powerful one at that. How do you work that out? What did he invent himself? Nothing of note. |
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Post by Tim on Sept 14, 2017 0:32:07 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Sept 14, 2017 7:14:09 GMT
n Apple did not invent the mouse or the graphical interface. all invented at Xerox PARC. |
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Post by Tim on Sept 14, 2017 8:56:48 GMT
Guys, innovate and invent are two different concepts - which is what the theme was as far as I was concerned. In its purest sense, invention can be defined as the creation of a product or introduction of a process for the first time. Innovation, on the other hand, occurs if someone improves on or makes a significant contribution to an existing product, process or service.
Hahaha, forgot how forums can be, twisting, turning and misinterpreting. I was just referring to Stans reference to Apples innovation, or current lack of it.
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant . . .
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Post by MartinT on Sept 14, 2017 10:24:29 GMT
"What did he invent himself" was the question asked!
No matter, I hear you and agree that Jobs, while unpleasant personally, was a great innovator. Apple innovated much, but invented relatively little.
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Post by Tim on Sept 14, 2017 11:09:35 GMT
I was only ever talking about innovation and that was highlighted by the illustious Mr Brook by asking how did I work that out, from my statement "Steve Jobs was one of the greatest innovators of our time" which I still stand by. But he just annoys me anyway, as I'm sure I do him  |
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Post by mikeyb on Sept 14, 2017 12:00:00 GMT
Guys, innovate and invent are two different concepts - which is what the theme was as far as I was concerned. In its purest sense, invention can be defined as the creation of a product or introduction of a process for the first time. Innovation, on the other hand, occurs if someone improves on or makes a significant contribution to an existing product, process or service. Hahaha, forgot how forums can be, twisting, turning and misinterpreting. I was just referring to Stans reference to Apples innovation, or current lack of it. I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant . . . I knew exactly what you meant. But here's how I see it, Apple basically steals/borrows/buys loads of ideas created/invented by lots of different people/companies and made them their own by packaging and wrapping them up in their own patents and cleverly designing them in such a way as to make money. Innovators? I'm not so sure, I don't see them producing much that someone else hasn't done already. You can bet they have a team of 'experts' scouring the obsolete patents daily 😉 They also know that by building in obsolescence in their products that people have to always upgrade and buy a newer product even though their current would work perfectly if Apple didn't kill it off with no more support. Mind you Apple aren't the only company to do this, the digital age is responsible for so much junked or scrapped electronics it's ridiculous. Forrest Gump has a lot to answer for 😉 Sent from my iPad, using my Android phone as WiFi hotspot whilst on a beach in Cephalonia, Greece, listening to Spotify via B & W Bluetooth headphones 😂😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by Tim on Sept 14, 2017 12:13:06 GMT
Sent from my iPad, using my Android phone as WiFi hotspot whilst on a beach in Cephalonia, Greece, listening to Spotify via B & W Bluetooth headphones 😂😂😂😂😂 Hahaha  Enjoy the sun |
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Post by mikeyb on Sept 14, 2017 12:17:40 GMT
Sent from my iPad, using my Android phone as WiFi hotspot whilst on a beach in Cephalonia, Greece, listening to Spotify via B & W Bluetooth headphones 😂😂😂😂😂 Hahaha Enjoy the sun Thought you would like that 😊  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 12:21:56 GMT
Jealous!
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Post by Tim on Sept 14, 2017 12:40:13 GMT
Nice island, I was there the night Diana died and have never returned. Nothing to do with it, but I just remember it vividly because of that event. The mourning even touched there.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 14, 2017 12:55:32 GMT
Nice island, I was there the night Diana died ...and I was in Bali. |
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 14, 2017 13:58:29 GMT
I was in Ireland.
I shall be in Cephalonia myself in a few weeks though!
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Post by mikeyb on Sept 14, 2017 15:26:15 GMT
I was in Ireland. I shall be in Cephalonia myself in a few weeks though! Excellent, we've another week yet 😊 |
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