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Post by Chris on Jul 2, 2017 20:49:30 GMT
Ok,I'm going to have a little experimental play with soundproofing in my tune room. I've ordered up a mat which I'm going to tuck under a rug and a few soundproofing tiles. The aim is to keep a bit sound out as well as in as the tv downstairs seems to carry right up into my room and I'd like to see if I can hear much difference as well so a bit room tuning is another priority. Now,it's just cheap stuff off eBay and not a lot of it to start but if there is a decent difference I can up the game a wee bit. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152604606379 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272612236658 I'm thinking of the tiles in behind my speakers - 4 each and 2 under the feet on my stand. Are there any "rules" on positioning these things? Is it just a question of moving them about to find what works? As ive said,it's not a lot to start but any guidance is appreciated. |
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 3, 2017 15:29:21 GMT
Be interested to hear what you hear.
Definitely start cheap.
Can you get into the floorboards ?
When our house was gutted and refurbed the builders didn't do that good a job insulating between floors. We have glass fibre insulation probably for heat insulation rather than sound. Likely not that even.in the floor either.
Look out for dampng too much in the room
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Post by MartinT on Jul 3, 2017 17:23:17 GMT
Look for first reflections, Chris. From the speakers to the rear wall and back at you. Side reflections. From the speakers off the floor to you (good place for a thick rug). Reflections behind and back at you. These are the places to put up damping panels or curtains.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Jul 3, 2017 20:25:01 GMT
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Post by Chris on Jul 3, 2017 20:54:35 GMT
Now that's interesting Martin,sure I heard you mention that before which is what made me think of Behind the speakers placing. I've also a back wall that'll take a bit then can be covered with vintage maps.
The brookmeister - appreciate that,thanks. When you say effective what do you mean? It'd be nice to know what I'm listening for!
Mike - no mate,not gonna start pulling up flooring, I shall keep this post updated as I go on.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 3, 2017 21:07:55 GMT
It's really good to start with an empty room. Talk in a normal voice in the middle of the room - hear the reverb in your voice coming back at you, how live it sounds. Snap your fingers - hear the flutter echo as it quickly reflects off different surfaces.
Once you've treated the room, if you've done it well, your voice will sound quite dead. Snapping your fingers will produce the direct sound with little or no flutter.
For guidance: two panels on the wall you're facing, each just inside the speakers to absorb the first reflection to you. One centred on each side wall. Two behind you. Thick rug or carpet on the floor. Soft furnishings. If you can stretch to it, bass traps in each corner. Build it up until the room sounds dead. It's the speakers you want doing the talking, not the room.
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Post by The Brookmeister on Jul 3, 2017 21:13:01 GMT
Now that's interesting Martin,sure I heard you mention that before which is what made me think of Behind the speakers placing. I've also a back wall that'll take a bit then can be covered with vintage maps. The brookmeister - appreciate that,thanks. When you say effective what do you mean? It'd be nice to know what I'm listening for! Mike - no mate,not gonna start pulling up flooring, I shall keep this post updated as I go on. If you have the funds buy this book, its very very good. getbettersound.com/index.php |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 3, 2017 21:14:34 GMT
They look great value for money. |
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Post by Chris on Jul 3, 2017 21:18:28 GMT
It's really good to start with an empty room. Talk in a normal voice in the middle of the room - hear the reverb in your voice coming back at you, how live it sounds. Snap your fingers - hear the flutter echo as it quickly reflects off different surfaces. Once you've treated the room, if you've done it well, your voice will sound quite dead. Snapping your fingers will produce the direct sound with little or no flutter. For guidance: two panels on the wall you're facing, each just inside the speakers to absorb the first reflection to you. One centred on each side wall. Two behind you. Thick rug or carpet on the floor. Soft furnishings. If you can stretch to it, bass traps in each corner. Build it up until the room sounds dead. It's the speakers you want doing the talking, not the room. Yeah,that sounds pretty much like I have planned. The rooms pretty good acoustically just now but the transfer of sound INTO the rooms a pain in the arse. Appreciate the comments Martin - nice and clear. |
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Post by Chris on Jul 3, 2017 21:19:50 GMT
Interesting looking book Brookmeister
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Post by The Brookmeister on Jul 4, 2017 20:28:24 GMT
Interesting looking book Brookmeister Worth it believe me. |
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Post by Chris on Jul 22, 2017 16:05:31 GMT
Just finished my very basic room tuning and I have to say I'm noticing a difference.
Put a thin mat on the floor and then hid that with a rug and I've added some acoustic foam over the back wall with a couple of small leftover rectangles in behind my speakers.
There's no noise from the tv downstairs now and the sound,as a whole,seems to have tightened up a bit. Wee bit sharper maybe.
It's not a recording studio or anything,don't get me wrong but it's been a worthy £25 upgrade. Quite pleased.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 22, 2017 16:20:57 GMT
Great result and wonderful value.
I hate outside noise and most noises I haven't planned.
Room tweaks must follow for me soon
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Post by MartinT on Jul 23, 2017 10:45:29 GMT
Just finished my very basic room tuning and I have to say I'm noticing a difference. Nice upgrade, Chris. As you listen more, you should become aware of more micro-detail and a little more soundstage than you heard before. It's remarkable how beneficial removing interference from the room can be. Another thing that's interesting is that removing some of the interference allows you to hear more that the room is doing. For example, I became aware of one of my doors rattling gently in sympathy with the bass and was able to stop that with a small rubber footer. |
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Post by Chris on Jul 24, 2017 3:48:48 GMT
Yeah,now that's interesting. That's my listening room/study that I've done that in but on my downstairs system there's a few wee bits n bobs that could be done. My biggest bugbear is folk leaving the kitchen door open right in front of a speaker!
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Post by MartinT on Jul 24, 2017 4:56:20 GMT
That's going to affect imaging!
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