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Post by MartinT on Jan 28, 2017 13:38:55 GMT
I think you're going a little far now, Chris. The fuses in question are sold in the USA and undoubtedly have some form of certification. If you don't want to use them, then fair enough. Some of us are very happy with what they do. I sleep perfectly happy at night, thanks.
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Post by malcolm on Jan 28, 2017 14:05:45 GMT
Has anyone asked their insurers whether using these fuses would give them reason to turn down a claim if a piece of equipment connected by one of these fuses caused a fire? I think I would need to know the answer to that before enthusing publicly about a non standard modification.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 28, 2017 14:19:52 GMT
No.
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Post by robbiegong on Jan 28, 2017 14:32:01 GMT
It creates more space in the soundstage, a better sensation of the extremities, notes and voices hang in the air with sharper focus, the noise floor drops. All these things happen in my system but there's no guarantee that it will happen in anyone else's. Before you go to the expense of a better fuse for the Sansui, make sure that its power is going straight to the wall and not via another distributor. Use a decent cable and clean the pins both ends. If its possible, exchange the wall socket for an unswitched variety. Then try the fuse (after adapting to the current sound). Let us know what you think. Cheers Martin. I have the Missing Link Ultra Pure Silver Plated unswitched socket and plugs with AMR gold fuses at the mo and the amp goes straight into that / the wall. Once my amp is sorted and returned I'll spend some time adapting to the changes - re-cap, hybrid ceramic bearings in the tonearm and I've also finished paying down on the Paul Hynes SR7 external psu and the triple stage regs I told you I was pursuing  That's a lot of change in one go. Once my ears have got used to the changes I'll consider the SR Black. BTW - I'll be sending you a pm regarding the psu and regs.  |
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Post by Stratmangler on Jan 28, 2017 14:40:02 GMT
The fuses in question are sold in the USA and undoubtedly have some form of certification Then the testing certification should be in the public domain. It doesn't appear to be the case. I suspect that they don't bear any test standards marks because they haven't been independently tested, and therefore do not comply with electrical safety rules. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 14:41:12 GMT
I think you're going a little far now, Chris. The fuses in question are sold in the USA and undoubtedly have some form of certification. If you don't want to use them, then fair enough. Some of us are very happy with what they do. I sleep perfectly happy at night, thanks. I don't know about the certification of these particular fuses but I did some reading and BS 1362 doesn't appear to be a necessity as long as there is compliance with the safety standards of another EU country. As for blowing fuses, I've never had an internal or external fuse blow on me in 30 years of hi fi and box swapping. I'm not saying it can't happen, but I certainly wouldn't feel unsafe using an SR fuse. When circumstances allow, I will be trying some myself. i may be wrong but it seems to me like much of the "concern" is influenced and perhaps driven by outrage at the £90 price. Remember: Nobody's asking you to spend a penny and even if you do, there's a money back guarantee. Why not live and let live? |
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Post by Stratmangler on Jan 28, 2017 14:51:34 GMT
i may be wrong but it seems to me like much of the "concern" is influenced and perhaps driven by the outrage at the £90 price. Remember: Nobody's asking you to spend a penny and even if you do, there's a money back guarantee. Why not live and let live? You are wrong. If someone wants to spend £90 on a fuse that's none of my business. The price has no influence on any of my comments. I suspect the item has not been independently tested to do what it is claimed to do. That's it. End of. |
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Post by Slinger on Jan 28, 2017 14:54:18 GMT
Let me attempt to summarize the last 13 pages as I see them? The audiophile fuses being discussed cost £90.00 each. It's not my £90.00 and no matter how daft I think spending £90.00 on a fuse is that will still never make it my £90.00. Nor will it make it my business to tell someone else how to spend their £90.00. The fuse may or may not invalidate your insurance, and I say " your" insurance because they'll never invalidate mine, so it's not my problem. Anyone trying to justify their posts by showing how concerned they for someone else who has spent £90.00 on a fuse while reminding us that they'd never spend £90.00 on a fuse themselves is almost certainly talking cobblers and has some sort of an agenda. Anyone who says they have no agenda has an agenda. The whole thing was started by a dealer (although not the one that sold the particular fuse in question I must add for the sake of fairness) as a response to a thread on another site and was pretty much an excuse to... a) Take a pop at that site. b) Raise awareness of £90.00 fuses. Now just think what we could have achieved if we'd spent the time it took us all to write and read those 13 pages doing something productive.    I have no agenda! |
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jan 28, 2017 15:31:49 GMT
So, can I expect Deoxit to work it's "magic" here?:  |
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Post by pinkie on Jan 28, 2017 15:57:41 GMT
What - listen to music you mean? No - polish your fuse! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 16:41:16 GMT
So, can I expect Deoxit to work it's "magic" here?: My God! |
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Post by Stratmangler on Jan 28, 2017 16:47:57 GMT
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jan 28, 2017 16:58:02 GMT
I have no bananas
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jan 28, 2017 17:21:58 GMT
So, can I expect Deoxit to work it's "magic" here?: My God! Could be worse...   |
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Post by gazjam on Jan 28, 2017 21:06:39 GMT
Let me attempt to summarize the last 13 pages as I see them? The audiophile fuses being discussed cost £90.00 each. It's not my £90.00 and no matter how daft I think spending £90.00 on a fuse is that will still never make it my £90.00. Nor will it make it my business to tell someone else how to spend their £90.00. The fuse may or may not invalidate your insurance, and I say " your" insurance because they'll never invalidate mine, so it's not my problem. Anyone trying to justify their posts by showing how concerned they for someone else who has spent £90.00 on a fuse while reminding us that they'd never spend £90.00 on a fuse themselves is almost certainly talking cobblers and has some sort of an agenda. Anyone who says they have no agenda has an agenda. The whole thing was started by a dealer (although not the one that sold the particular fuse in question I must add for the sake of fairness) as a response to a thread on another site and was pretty much an excuse to... a) Take a pop at that site. b) Raise awareness of £90.00 fuses. Now just think what we could have achieved if we'd spent the time it took us all to write and read those 13 pages doing something productive. I have no agenda! Hey Slinger, Enjoyed your posts on various Forums (forii?) so all good. Revisited this thread after a long time away. Have 3 SR Black fuses in my system now and really enjoyed both the individual and cumulative improvement they bring. Trying to keep out of the various twattery spoken about this stuff (on both sides of the fence and on different forums) but had to respond (respectfullly of course) about you saying how this thread was started by a Dealer? I know theres an anti-bullshit agenda on 'Elsewhere on the Web' (and thats a fucking good thing) but....it's too easy to be crowd driven and see the Bogey Man around every corner. So...Respectfully, So much F.U.D. crowd pleasing and doubt projection flying around by this, that it really makes me wonder. So: just for the record... This thread did in fact NOT come about by a Dealer, but by myself over on Art Of Sound where I commented in the appropriate section in how I found the SR fuse brought about a substantial improvement in sound quality. Given my enthusiam for the improvement (and as I've done on hifi forums since 1996) I just wanted to share what I've heard with the troops. I have no agenda either. Always someone who professed that you should hear things for yourself, and the fuses are no different. Appreciate its a bit of a leap given what it is though. |
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Post by Slinger on Jan 28, 2017 21:34:17 GMT
What's-a matter you? Hey! Gotta no respect? My agenda is-a male. Whats-a your agenda? Gaz - Maybe I could have phrased it better, but what I meant was that THIS whole thing, on this forum, was started by a dealer and was... "a response to a thread on another site..." |
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Post by gazjam on Jan 28, 2017 21:39:59 GMT
Ah ha... thats a (da) totally different thing...As Joe Dolci said. |
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Post by gazjam on Jan 28, 2017 21:59:00 GMT
And...heres a random thought?
Lots of high end American and other non British kit (Mackintosh et al...) do they have BS standard fuses as a given?
What makes us so special?
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Post by MartinT on Jan 28, 2017 22:03:07 GMT
So, can I expect Deoxit to work it's "magic" here? I think you'll need Vim for that  |
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Post by MartinT on Jan 28, 2017 22:08:17 GMT
Thanks for the summary, slinger. I've not much to add except for the observation that some people have tried it. Others may do. Others still will never try it.
There's precious little chance of everyone coming together on this issue so we'll just have to agree to disagree.
There are much more important things in life to fall out over.
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