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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 6:40:00 GMT
Post by MartinT on Oct 21, 2016 6:40:00 GMT
Once again I have learned to my cost that Adobe are without doubt the most utterly pants software company to work with. Their software is terribly unstable, if it decides to go wrong on a machine nothing can repair it, their activation service is a nightmare and their 'support' is frankly laughable.
Yes, they publish Photoshop which is the industry standard, so sadly people have to use it whether they like it or not. But everything about that company and their products compels me to think 'run away' whenever I have to support an installation.
In the past, I've had things like Photoshop Elements not run all of its functions properly only to be told by their support people that the user must have local admin rights on the machine. Err, but this software is for students and they get local admin rights over my dead body!
Today, my Photoshop Elements 10 installation goes unstable and crashes every time. So I uninstall it, there being no repair option. Then I reinstall it. No go, still won't work. Done all the restarts etc. and have no more time to mess with the bastard. So I uninstall it again and install the much older Photoshop Elements 7. Works fine . . . for now.
Totally crap company.
There, I've vented and now I feel better!
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 7:27:16 GMT
Post by zippy on Oct 21, 2016 7:27:16 GMT
I agree 100% - I've always steered clear of Adobe products and it's a great shame that Photoshop is the industry standard as I suspect many people put up with it's downsides just for that reason.
I've always found a non Adobe product that's as good and usually for less money (or free).
I even shun that ubiquitous Adobe Reader..
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 7:27:59 GMT
Post by Barrington on Oct 21, 2016 7:27:59 GMT
Martin have a cup of tea everything will be ok , try again tomorrow.  |
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 9:37:20 GMT
Post by MartinT on Oct 21, 2016 9:37:20 GMT
 I wish I could use clones but Adobe Reader really does read PDFs that other readers cannot and I cannot avoid (or blame) the Photography Department from teaching using Photoshop. I'm having a cup of strong coffee... |
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 10:09:12 GMT
Post by pre65 on Oct 21, 2016 10:09:12 GMT
I've long had an aversion to anything Adobe.
I have been using Foxit as my PDF reader for quite a few years, without ANY problems.
www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/
I don't use photo editing software (yet) so can't comment on Photoshop. but would welcome info on easy to use alternatives.
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 10:44:21 GMT
Post by zippy on Oct 21, 2016 10:44:21 GMT
I've long had an aversion to anything Adobe.
I have been using Foxit as my PDF reader for quite a few years, without ANY problems.
www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/
I don't use photo editing software (yet) so can't comment on Photoshop. but would welcome info on easy to use alternatives. As a Nikon user, for many years I've used Nikon Capture NX and found it suits my needs better than Adobe. Alas Nikon stopped supporting it a couple of years back (I still use the last version though) They still issue a cut down version called Capture NX-D which you might like to have a look at especially if you have a Nikon camera. CAPTURENXDOtherwise GIMP is often recommended, and you can do quite a lot with PAINT.NET |
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 10:56:41 GMT
Post by MartinT on Oct 21, 2016 10:56:41 GMT
Yes, GIMP has been recommended to me, too. I still have to support Photoshop, though.
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 12:27:35 GMT
Post by pre65 on Oct 21, 2016 12:27:35 GMT
I've just remembered that I purchased a copy of Canon Digital Photo Professional ver 1.5 some time ago, and it's still unopened.
Anyone had any experience of this ?
I use a Canon EOS40d.
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 12:59:44 GMT
Post by Slinger on Oct 21, 2016 12:59:44 GMT
Bloody Dreamweaver has always been my pet hate. It dumped so much bloated code into what should have been nice streamlined HTML that it made me want to scream. I always used a program called Homesite, which was brilliant. You could hand-code in it but it had useful shortcuts and added nothing of itself to your code. What happened? Macromedia (makers of Dreamweaver) bought it, which was OK, they just used bits of Homesite in Dreamweaver, and then F*&£ing Adobe bought Macromediia and shut Homesite down. Dreamweaver became even more bloated and I'm still using my 2009 (I think) version of Homesite to code HTML with.
There, now I've had a nice little Adobe vent too, and as for the Creative Clown Cloud, don't get me started. I'm sticking with my Photoshop on disk and Acrobat reader, the rest of Adobe can disappear up it's own I/O ports for all I care
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 13:04:57 GMT
Post by MartinT on Oct 21, 2016 13:04:57 GMT
Their sales model is now pretty much rental only, which means you simply can't buy the big packages any longer. It puts paid to any notion of installing more copies onto workstations.
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 13:22:57 GMT
Post by julesd68 on Oct 21, 2016 13:22:57 GMT
I use Adobe Lightroom - as a product I like to use it but do find it annoying that it's a monthly payment.
When I installed it you could buy it outright but then they wouldn't give you any of latest updates for free!
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 14:38:45 GMT
Post by markgrant on Oct 21, 2016 14:38:45 GMT
I've just remembered that I purchased a copy of Canon Digital Photo Professional ver 1.5 some time ago, and it's still unopened. Anyone had any experience of this ? I use a Canon EOS40d. Purchased, it should have been included for free with your camera? The more recent versions are good and free as long as you have an original disc so it can check you have the disc as it installs, no where near as useful as Photoshop but OK for simple stuff. www.canon.co.uk/support/camera_software/#eosdpp |
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Adobe
Oct 21, 2016 14:54:15 GMT
Post by pre65 on Oct 21, 2016 14:54:15 GMT
The camera was secondhand, got the body on Ebay for £100 a while ago, and it works perfectly.
Simple sounds good to me, so I'll give it a try.
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