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Post by julesd68 on Sept 28, 2016 15:14:10 GMT
Drat and triple drat. I've been using poly-lined paper inners for a while now, but I've come to realise that their anti-static properties are nowhere near as good as the Nagaoka style d-shaped ones. Records that have only just been cleaned look like they haven't been cleaned for a while. Pulled out some older vinyl with the d-shaped and they look near spotless. And of course I've just received 50 more of the buggers!! Guess what I'll do is get some d-shaped and put them inside the new paper inners to make them more secure. I used to get irritated with the corners of the d-shape inners that can get bent in the sleeve but I'll put up with that for clean records. Might try the inners from Snow Records since they are supposed to be stupidly cheap and good quality. I'd still like to know if there are any good poly lined paper inners that have just as good anti-stat qualities ...
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Post by The Brookmeister on Sept 28, 2016 17:31:04 GMT
I am sure Mr Nangle will be along soon to flog you some.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 28, 2016 20:38:29 GMT
I've been saying for a long time that nothing touches the Nagaoka D-shaped inner sleeves. They may be fiddly but their ability to completely remove static from a record over a period of a week or so is remarkable. Use them inside the current sleeve, keeping them together. It makes it a lot easier.
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 28, 2016 21:35:44 GMT
Ditto. And yes, the Snow records ones are cheap and identical as far as I can tell.
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 28, 2016 23:20:33 GMT
The funny thing is I've just sold a bag of 50 Nags to that MikeMusic geezer thinking I wouldn't need them!!
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Post by Guest on Sept 29, 2016 1:42:29 GMT
Ditto. And yes, the Snow records ones are cheap and identical as far as I can tell. I am going to give them a try.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 11:05:45 GMT
Personally i knocked the specialised Inners on the Head.I find it an utter waste of time & money.. I just buy bog standard Poly lined inners with no problem at all. If you lot packed it in with the carbon fibre brushes etc you would not get so much static. www.covers33.co.uk/product-category/vinyl/record-paper-covers/
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Post by MartinT on Sept 29, 2016 12:56:11 GMT
I must disagree, Andr'e. Static is a big problem for records and eliminating it is a big positive step forwards for playback and longevity.
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 29, 2016 13:29:11 GMT
Well, I don't have problems with static and never have but I buy inner sleeves to keep my records clean. The ones from Snow are also a sight cheaper than those you linked to Andre, so no wasted time or money.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 29, 2016 13:31:32 GMT
Have you never struggled to remove a new record from its inner sleeve, Chris, so heavy is the static adhesion?
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 29, 2016 13:40:49 GMT
Well yes. But I didn't say I don't ever see static, just that it doesn't cause me problems. I only ever see it on new, or newly bought secondhand, records. After I clean them they are no longer charged. I sold my Zerostat because after I bought my RCM I never used it. Ever.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 29, 2016 13:57:17 GMT
Oh, ok fair enough. I find that keeping them in Nagaoka sleeves, regardless of whether they've been in the RCM or not, keeps them completely free of static. The hidden benefit is no attraction of dust into the grooves while the record is spinning.
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Post by MikeMusic on Sept 29, 2016 20:39:42 GMT
The funny thing is I've just sold a bag of 50 Nags to that MikeMusic geezer thinking I wouldn't need them!! I was born lucky mate
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 10:31:57 GMT
Well, I don't have problems with static and never have but I buy inner sleeves to keep my records clean. The ones from Snow are also a sight cheaper than those you linked to Andre, so no wasted time or money. Yep i don't have static problems either, People are deffo doing something wrong. Carbon fibre brushes are a no no with me i always use a vintage Watts 'Parostatik' Preener, They don't introduce any static to my records. Poly linned inner are for one thing & one thing only, keep your records safe & free from possible scratches that you will no dobt get if you used a standard paper inner sleeve. As always things are made into a big deal
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 1, 2016 14:15:28 GMT
Well, I don't have problems with static and never have but I buy inner sleeves to keep my records clean. The ones from Snow are also a sight cheaper than those you linked to Andre, so no wasted time or money. Yep i don't have static problems either, People are deffo doing something wrong. Carbon fibre brushes are a no no with me i always use a vintage Watts 'Parostatik' Preener, Do you use that with a fluid or always dry?
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Post by julesd68 on Oct 1, 2016 14:16:25 GMT
Ditto. And yes, the Snow records ones are cheap and identical as far as I can tell. I am going to give them a try. Just ordered 100 of them - much better value than ordering packs of 50 over here even with the postage ...
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Post by ChrisB on Oct 1, 2016 14:21:05 GMT
Bargain eh? I found that the sweet spot was to buy 3 packs. Any more than that and the postage skews the price.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 20:51:07 GMT
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Post by The Brookmeister on Oct 4, 2016 19:32:00 GMT
The 1/2 circle design is good if the sleeves are slightly thicker/heavier than the nagaoka 102, they are easier to get in and out.
I buy 10,000 at a time direct from a factory in China. They are also useful to give away as a freebie with a RCM!
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