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Post by steve on Sept 3, 2016 10:08:41 GMT
I have been using a borrowed Musical Fidelity XLP S phono stage and enjoying my records once more, with the hacked Lenco, but I have been needing a phono stage of my own since I got back into vinyl.
Ordering the NVA Phono1 a couple of weeks ago, it arrived yesterday morning and was connected into the system and warmed up for an hour.
The mirror finished, black, acrylic case is quite beautiful; a perfect example of form follows function, and represents classic British Hi-Fi minimalism in the grand tradition.
I will admit, I was a bit worried about hum, due to the lack of any metal in the external construction of the Phono1, but I needn't have been concerned; there was a compete absence of anything really; no hiss, no hum, nothing, nada. In fact I wondered if the thing was working until I passed my cleaning brush over the AT440MLb stylus and heard the familiar scrape through the speakers.
In terms of sound quality, the Phono1 simply sounds like music. There is a liquidity to the presentation that is quite addictive. It makes you want to keep playing records; digging out stuff, long since consigned to the "sounds crap" end of the shelf and discovering that it sounds bloody good actually. One of the best things about the sound of the Phono1 is the way that it deals with "hot" vocals. We have all cringed at the sound of sssssingers, spitting out sssssibilance and spoiling the enjoyment of what would otherwise be great records, and once it happens, you sit there waiting for it.
With the Phono1, this often troublesome aspect of vinyl replay is quite absent; 's' sounds coming over cleanly and naturally, and if your cartridge has a good line contact stylus and tracks well, the vocal reproduction allowed by the Phono1, puts the performer right in front of you, large as life, vinyl artefacts conspicuous by their absence. This is seriously impressive.
Speaking of impressive, the Phono1 throws a wide and deep soundstage on big classical orchestral productions; plenty of space and air. String tone, comes over without harshness whilst brass blats and blares convincingly. Piano tone is natural, clear and free from clankiness.
The top end of the spectrum is extended and again pleasingly clear, clean and detailed, with ride cymbals shimmering nicely and crashes being splash free. Triangles, wind chimes etc are sharp and cleanly reproduced. Shakers are pin sharp and do not get buried when the music gets complex.
At the bottom end there is plenty of depth and extension with pleasing growl from bowed basses. Electric bass is well defined and textured. Kick drum is controlled and Timp rolls thunder without loss of grip. The bass end is held nicely so that it doesn't overwhelm and smear everything further up the range when the going gets complicated.
Overall pace rhythm and timing, is well portrayed and pitch relationships are absolutely nailed down, with nothing sounding discordant. A good test of pitch is Fender Rhodes electric piano, which on some systems, can sound vague and off tune somehow. There is none of that nonsense with the Phono1.
I think we can safely say that I like this phono stage; I like it a lot.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 3, 2016 10:26:08 GMT
Nice review, Steve. How much is it?
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Post by steve on Sept 3, 2016 10:31:50 GMT
Nice review, Steve. How much is it? £280 off Richard's eBay store.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 10:34:14 GMT
Not tempted by a Phono 2?
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Post by orbscure on Sept 3, 2016 10:50:53 GMT
Yes indeed... having just got back into vinyl myself, its one of only two NVA itches I've yet to scratch
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steve
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Post by steve on Sept 3, 2016 12:22:52 GMT
At the moment, I'm more than happy with the Phono1. Of course there are going to be improvements gained from going further up the NVA range, but the Phono 1 is definite proof that it is not necessary to spend thousands to get vinyl to function properly and sing beautifully.
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Post by dsjr on Sept 5, 2016 21:32:40 GMT
The Phono 2 gains are low-down 'substance' and a slightly more 'organic' presentation in my experience. Adding the second supply to the Phono 2 increases this further I found. As with all of this make, it's about an increased spiritual and/or emotional connection with the music coming through, rather than purely 'detail' or 'definition.'
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 5, 2016 23:07:05 GMT
Is the 1 readily converted into a 2 with an extra power supply or is there more to it than that?
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Post by dsjr on Sept 6, 2016 14:34:54 GMT
There's a lot more to it I'm afraid, although the basic board is the same. Everything else is beefed up, doubled up and expanded and I was stunned that there's a difference at all, let alone the magnitude with a wide-open system. Forgive the shill, it's all to do with one's 'emotional connection' with the music played. You can do this with humble gear, but a *musically* better system just makes it easier to get involved in the reproduced performance. In *this particular* respect, objective tonal accuracy and lack of distortion is an aside and useless if the musical message is severely diluted in the process. the NVA Phono 1 stage seems to get the 'HiFi' bits right with no emphasis of surface noise or sibilance effects, but the 2 and then the 'twin 2' fleshes it all out more. Having said that, my positive vibes on the Doc's SPU on AOS was with it playing into a straight Phono 1 and using humble SC cables!
'Scuse the shill please, if anyone sees it as such. Nobody else here could probably describe the two units in direct comparison I fear.
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 6, 2016 15:03:59 GMT
Well, the question was directed at you Dave, so thanks for the reply. So there is, in effect a Phono 3 (though not in name), which is a 2 with one power supply per channel?
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Post by dsjr on Sept 6, 2016 15:38:16 GMT
Yes. One simply ties the second umbilical away on each supply and just use one from each.
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 6, 2016 22:44:34 GMT
Thanks, that makes it clearer now.
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 7, 2016 12:10:28 GMT
Dave - I have a good friend who is looking for a new phono stage and I told him to have a look at the Phono 1.
Could I ask on his behalf about using the Phono 1 with a Dynavector 10x5 cart - since it's HOMC a lot of people use these on a standard 47k ohms MM input but Dynavector recommend 1k loading I believe. What would be your recommendation and could it be set for either?
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Post by Stratmangler on Sept 7, 2016 12:29:41 GMT
Dave - I have a good friend who is looking for a new phono stage and I told him to have a look at the Phono 1. Could I ask on his behalf about using the Phono 1 with a Dynavector 10x5 cart - since it's HOMC a lot of people use these on a standard 47k ohms MM input but Dynavector recommend 1k loading I believe. What would be your recommendation and could it be set for either? Dynavector recommend a loading greater than 1Kohms. They don't specify an upper limit.
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Post by MartinT on Sept 7, 2016 16:40:38 GMT
I used previous high output Dynavector MCs on 47k to good effect and low output on 100 ohms. Because the high outputs still have relatively low coil resistance, they are less prone to noise than MM. But then again, they tend to have lower output voltage.
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Post by mikeyb on Sept 7, 2016 21:01:45 GMT
Dave - I have a good friend who is looking for a new phono stage and I told him to have a look at the Phono 1. Could I ask on his behalf about using the Phono 1 with a Dynavector 10x5 cart - since it's HOMC a lot of people use these on a standard 47k ohms MM input but Dynavector recommend 1k loading I believe. What would be your recommendation and could it be set for either? If you buy new from NVA then they set it up for whatever cartridge you use.
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 8, 2016 18:49:04 GMT
Thanks chaps - Dave knows the 10x5 so am interested to know what loading he would recommend for it using the Phono 1 ...
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Post by dsjr on Sept 9, 2016 12:30:01 GMT
The 10X series from 1 to 5 seem kind to loading and the stock Phono 1 will be fine, in my opinion more able to utilise the added bass drama these cartridges can offer than many/most cheaper options.
[edited for padding]
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Post by julesd68 on Sept 9, 2016 12:59:47 GMT
Thanks for this Dave, I will pass on your thoughts ...
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