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Post by Chris on Aug 9, 2016 2:49:54 GMT
Young lad I knows amp is knackered. He's adamant his next one MUST be an A/V amp as he uses the hdmi connection from his consoles etc. Im confused - what would the hdmi connect to in the amp?
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Post by MartinT on Aug 9, 2016 7:04:53 GMT
HDMI carries digital video and audio, so AV amps can switch and route them together.
Personally, I wouldn't have video anywhere near my hi-fi system's signals, but then I'm an audio guy.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 9, 2016 7:40:41 GMT
He doesn't have to have an AV amp unless he's gaming in surround sound. Th AV amp will keep all the audio and video in sync. So at a basic level all he needs is a TV with HDMI inputs. He can take the TV stereo audio output to a stereo amplifier.
That is basically what we do here. The TV has 4 HDMI inputs, and it's used as a hub for all the various HDMI kit we have Connected input devices are (1) Virgin Tivo (2) Bluray player (3) Android media box (4) X-Box The TV is connected via Toslink (optical fibre) to the DAC, and the DAC feeds the stereo amp, so that's 4 sources that can be played through 1 input on the stereo. The HDMI carries audio & video into the TV, and because the TV is the device connecting to the DAC there are no issues with audio/video sync.
If I didn't have the DAC I could have connected up the TV to the stereo using an interconnect cable.
My son normally just uses the TV audio when he's on the X-Box, but on occasion he'll put it through the stereo. Some of the game soundtracks sound very impressive through the stereo.
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Post by Chris on Aug 9, 2016 8:10:34 GMT
I didn't think he needed an AV amp either. Glad to have that confirmed. Seems like what you do Stratmangler is similar to what I do except I use a 5m Scart to 2 phono to run Virgin tv/media player and DVD through the tv to my amp and that works well. Got a feeling this'll fall on deaf ears though as he sort of makes his mind up then doesn't listen. Still,you can do nowt but try!
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 9, 2016 8:45:22 GMT
When you mentioned young lad in your first post I knew your advice would likely be ignored. They know it all, and yet know nothing. Wasn't it the same with our generation?
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Post by DaveC on Aug 9, 2016 8:55:05 GMT
Guys
It's not the young, it's you !!
I have my PS3 connected by HDMI and would not have it any other way..................
I do get so tired of bad advice on forums.
Dave
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 9, 2016 9:02:00 GMT
Guys It's not the young, it's you !! I have my PS3 connected by HDMI and would not have it any other way.................. I do get so tired of bad advice on forums. Dave I'm with you all the way Dave, so why is my advice bad? I get tired of people not reading posts on forums properly, and then coming out with statements about bad advice on forums ....
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Post by MartinT on Aug 9, 2016 9:08:24 GMT
I think the issue is deciding what the priority is: a complete AV experience or audio first.
For audio first, send HDMI to the TV by all means, but route digital audio by separate means (e.g. optical) to the DAC so that you are not routing through the TV. As Chris alludes to, this can give you lip-sync problems due to the different timing delays but it's something that many satellite and Blu-ray players have an adjustment for.
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Post by DaveC on Aug 9, 2016 9:15:52 GMT
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_____________ Got a feeling this'll fall on deaf ears though as he sort of makes his mind up then doesn't listen. Still,you can do nowt but try!
I didn't think he needed an AV amp either. Glad to have that confirmed.
When you mentioned young lad in your first post I knew your advice would likely be ignored. _____________
Only you considered he might be gaming in surround sound, let alone playing Blu-ray in surround too ? (from his PS3/4)
If the young lad read this thread, what would he think ?
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 9, 2016 9:46:16 GMT
These : _____________ Got a feeling this'll fall on deaf ears though as he sort of makes his mind up then doesn't listen. Still,you can do nowt but try!
I didn't think he needed an AV amp either. Glad to have that confirmed.
When you mentioned young lad in your first post I knew your advice would likely be ignored. _____________
Only you considered he might be gaming in surround sound, let alone playing Blu-ray in surround too ? (from his PS3/4) If the young lad read this thread, what would he think ? The first post doesn't mention an AV amp or multichannel. Just an amplifier. The rest of it? I did post this ... ... so if the young lad does read this thread and doesn't take it in properly (as is usually the case, because reading things properly seems to be a dead art nowadays) then so be it.
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Post by Paul Barker on Aug 10, 2016 8:31:13 GMT
Similar issues. To get audio synced with video I have to use hdmi from apple tv to television then take the audio out from the tv in spdif to my dac. But this does not sound as good as taking the audio direct from the apple tv to the dac with optical. Lip sinc matters quite a lot though, so I go for lipsinc on video and sound quality on audio. I deliberately bought the last generation of appletv to have optical port. I was suspicious of the latest version just having hdmi. Looks like I was right.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 10, 2016 9:53:29 GMT
You might gain a little in quality by using an HDMI to S/PDIF converter in the line rather than go through the TV.
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Post by Paul Barker on Aug 10, 2016 10:24:57 GMT
You might gain a little in quality by using an HDMI to S/PDIF converter in the line rather than go through the TV. might try that.
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Post by yomanze on Aug 10, 2016 17:47:57 GMT
HDMI carries digital video and audio, so AV amps can switch and route them together. Personally, I wouldn't have video anywhere near my hi-fi system's signals, but then I'm an audio guy. Indeed, audio is what optical outs are there for (with A/V).
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Post by MartinT on Aug 11, 2016 6:31:42 GMT
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