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Post by dsjr on Aug 9, 2016 19:02:28 GMT
For £35 how can anyone possibly complain
I admit to not using them so far from walls to control the bass quality, but when new, the tweeter wasn't smooth. Twenty five to thirty years use may well take the edge off as it has for many other speakers I heard much later, but I was demming them as new, only getting six months or so before the next demo pair came along. Having heard empty boxes, lightly carefully damped and fully stuffed enclosures, these latter so tightly filled one could barely get the drivers in, I personally use speakers in the lower middle ground and am happy with the compromise
P.S. The Freedom version had a different tweeter - I think - unless my memory is totally shot (I wouldn't be surprised if it was).
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Post by robbiegong on Aug 9, 2016 21:07:28 GMT
Yeah the revised Freedom has a silk dome tweeter which sits underneath the mid\bass driver as opposed to the metal dome above the mid\bass driver configuration of the originals Chris has. Some people prefer the brighter warmer presentation of the originals. I liked the originals but went back to the Freedom's which I first had and prefer. I enjoyed the time i had with the originals though. In a nutshell they both have the fab qualities of that excellent Aerogel mid \bass driver. Differences being the originals have a brighter warmer, out of the box presentation. The Freedoms having a more balanced slightly in the box presentation. Enjoy your speakers Chris - nice result !
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 10, 2016 6:58:14 GMT
I don't think I have ever heard a system with them in, but then my memory is pretty bad. Either way, 35 quid for any pair of genuine hifi speakers, really has to be good news!
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Post by dsjr on Aug 10, 2016 8:10:25 GMT
Apologies for being too critical. It's what comes of remembering a visit from Robin Marshall, who really did know a thing or two about speakers and who took the 752 apart in not so many words. Also, my experiences were from new examples that never stayed in the dem room for much more than six months.
A topic for another thread is how some speakers really do 'run in' over a very long time - and possibly 'run out' over even longer. I'm thinking Mission 770mk1's, where the once sparkly tweeter all but disappeared after over twenty years, Rogers LS7-T at seventeen years old, the once spiteful metal-dome tweeter had completely mellowed out. B&W 601's (series 1) used to sound splashy I remember, yet a pair of these at several years old had all but sweetened up and sounded delightful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 13:36:18 GMT
Didn't Marshall have a degree of self interest being a Mission competitor? I can't say I was completely sold on the sound of his products.
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Post by dsjr on Aug 16, 2016 11:19:59 GMT
Robin Marshall designed for Mission for a while, but I don't honestly remember the time frame - could have been long after Epos. I think from memory that the Audax? Aerogel bass driver was pretty new at the time, so I suspect there'd have been much interest in this speaker because of it. Robin wasn't being snide or critical I remember, just observant of the way the speaker was designed - the way the recipe was put together. We saw a lot of him at the time and I knew him going back to his Audiomaster days in 1974 or so.
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