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Post by Guest on Jun 24, 2016 6:48:33 GMT
ADMIN EDIT: Post content removed due to breach of rules.Rule No.2: This is a hi-fi forum, nothing posted is a matter of life or death. It should not be necessary to get hot under the collar but should you find yourself rising to it, please calm down, take a chill pill and think before typing. Just write as if you were talking to people face-to-face. Discussion of politics or religion should be avoided as it nearly always ends in tears.
Read more: theaudiostandard.net/thread/3/forum-rules#ixzz4CToT3QibThread stays in place and title changed in order to remind others of the rule.
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 24, 2016 7:17:41 GMT
Sorry but politics and religion are out of bounds at TAS - these matters almost always end in bitterness on a forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 21:43:25 GMT
Are you saying this forum operates in a vacuum that ignores world events. Anything outside talking about the latest overpriced wanking cable INVOLVES POLITICS AND RELIGION - EU referendum and war in Syria are prime examples. Do you people exist in a bloody great bubble?
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Post by pre65 on Jun 25, 2016 22:31:25 GMT
Everything has it's place.
Would you go into a bread shop for a packet of wood screws, or try to buy petrol in a sweet shop ?
This is a forum for music and music reproduction in the main and other (non political or religious) things like cars which do not elicit heated discussion.
I will admit that another forum I visit (same subjects) has a much more relaxed policy on off topic discussions, but the membership there are able to post in a mature and non conflictatorial (nice word  ) manner.
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Post by dvh on Jun 25, 2016 22:37:20 GMT
Sorry but politics and religion are out of bounds at TAS - these matters almost always end in bitterness on a forum. If only people would realise that staying polite and measured is not just a better way of getting one's point across, it can also be incredibly annoying to one's opponent. The correct tone to adopt, especially when dealing with Brexiteers, is that which one would adopt when talking to a not particularly bright six-year-old. |
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Post by pre65 on Jun 25, 2016 22:41:33 GMT
Sorry but politics and religion are out of bounds at TAS - these matters almost always end in bitterness on a forum. If only people would realise that staying polite and measured is not just a better way of getting one's point across, it can also be incredibly annoying to one's opponent. The correct tone to adopt, especially when dealing with Brexiteers, is that which one would adopt when talking to a not particularly bright six-year-old.
Can you not accept that EVERYONE of us is entitled to an opinion, however much you may not agree with it. |
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Post by dvh on Jun 25, 2016 22:45:18 GMT
If only people would realise that staying polite and measured is not just a better way of getting one's point across, it can also be incredibly annoying to one's opponent. The correct tone to adopt, especially when dealing with Brexiteers, is that which one would adopt when talking to a not particularly bright six-year-old.
Can you not accept that EVERYONE of us is entitled to an opinion, however much you may not agree with it.Where did I say, or imply, that people are not entitled to their (wholly incorrect) opinions? |
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Post by pre65 on Jun 25, 2016 22:57:15 GMT
I'm not rising to the taunt of someone who likens people with a different view to his as "not particularly bright 6 year olds".
That is likely to cause offence and inflamed responses. 
I think you may need to reassess what "polite" means. 
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 25, 2016 23:57:57 GMT
There are plenty of places to discuss politics, and right now almost all of the UK based ones are aflame with comments made by people intolerant of the other view, leading to (mostly) unpleasant conflict.
We would like to be able to host discussions about religion and politics but we know only too well from experience elsewhere that they almost always end up as regrettable disasters because no matter how maturely people feel thay can behave, someone will always descend into insult or inflamatory expression and it will escalate from there. That's the way it is.
A few of the posts above nicely illustrate that very point.
It has always been the case that we don't allow such discussions and, as always, if you don't like the rules of this forum, then you have the ultimate sanction: don't use it.
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Post by Slinger on Jun 26, 2016 0:37:57 GMT
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Post by MartinT on Jun 26, 2016 7:04:29 GMT
Are you saying this forum operates in a vacuum that ignores world events.Do you people exist in a bloody great bubble? No talk of politics or religion has been in our rules from day one. Take a look at the other forums, see how toxic the political discussions have become. We don't want that here, it always ends in misery and closed threads. Do we live in a vacuum? Of course not, and all other topics are open for discussion as you can see here. |
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Post by Mr Whippy on Jun 26, 2016 8:51:56 GMT
Does that include the price of breakfast cereal? Shocking. Absolutely shocking, in my view. This week's Dead Ringers on Radio 4 was entertaining: bbc.in/28QdRD6 |
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Post by AlanS on Jun 26, 2016 9:31:03 GMT
Are you saying this forum operates in a vacuum that ignores world events.Do you people exist in a bloody great bubble? No talk of politics or religion has been in our rules from day one. Take a look at the other forums, see how toxic the political discussions have become. We don't want that here, it always ends in misery and closed threads. Do we live in a vacuum? Of course not, and all other topics are open for discussion as you can see here. PFM, Wigwam are fairly free from moderation and have managed to let discussion take place without the toxicity you see. Only your old friend's place is lock and ban city trying to force posters to conform to his concepts. BTW I have not posted on this current topic anywhere apart from this comment. |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 26, 2016 9:50:32 GMT
Wigwam are fairly free from moderation and have managed to let discussion take place without the toxicity you see The Brexit thread is moderation-free, agreed. Free of toxicity? I'll say it again, there are other places for it. Facebook is full of it, too, and much of it is deeply unpleasant. Entrenched views are always going to have this effect. We just don't need to be yet another place where it gets unpleasant. There are plenty of outlets to vent your opinions already. TAS will remain a refuge from it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 14:19:48 GMT
I do think it's possible to disagree without having a spat. Certainly the HFS EU thread has some strong words and disagreements due to some people not understanding the concept of democracy - but it hasn't escalated to the point of unpleasantness where posts are deleted and threads closed like AOS. There are some grown ups on other forums. I find people can get just as nasty over a bit of cable as politics.
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Post by Paul on Jun 26, 2016 15:25:08 GMT
The Wigwam Brexit thread definitely wasn't free of toxicity. A couple of bannings and the thread tidied up. Also, their isn't always a moderator online here.
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Post by alaska on Jun 26, 2016 19:24:42 GMT
Mods - very clever of you to get DVH to reinforce your case so perfectly with his two posts above. I bet he is so pleased with his pathetic schoolboy-level inputs.
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