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Post by julesd68 on May 23, 2016 11:18:35 GMT
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Post by Slinger on May 23, 2016 13:42:21 GMT
I saw some of the Karajan program and I'll be catching up with the whole thing when I get time. I found a couple of comments laugh-out-loud funny, which was not what I was expecting.
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Post by MartinT on May 23, 2016 14:18:42 GMT
About CDs: "all else is gaslight"!
Also, didn't he have a thing for Anne-Sophie Mutter?
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Post by julesd68 on May 23, 2016 18:34:48 GMT
Interestingly enough Anne-Sophie married Karajan's lawyer when she was 26 ...
She is still very beautiful IMO but then she's only 52.
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Post by Slinger on May 23, 2016 21:11:55 GMT
...didn't he have a thing for Anne-Sophie Mutter? Didn't we all?  |
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Post by Guest on May 26, 2016 16:15:59 GMT
The Young Musician of the Year was brilliant.
Listened to the final rather than watched it though, on my Douk; wow!!!
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 1, 2016 21:15:53 GMT
I finished watching the Karajan documentary tonight and found it extremely moving.
It's a very personal and intimate insight into his working life. The reason it digs so deep is the quality of the interviews - you get some of the big name stars you might expect, but you also get many 'rank and file' orchestra members of the Philharmonia, the Berlin Phil and the Vienna.
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Post by Tim on Jun 2, 2016 11:35:16 GMT
A difficult man, but still a genius. I'm a big Karajan fan
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Post by MartinT on Jun 2, 2016 11:42:23 GMT
I'm going to try watching it tonight. I like his Bruckner but I've rarely seen eye to eye with his Beethoven (except his first recording of the 9th).
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 2, 2016 12:46:22 GMT
I thought one of the most telling comments was by an ex Berlin Phil member. He basically said that the way orchestras work nowadays there is a much more friendly working relationship with conductors, and that he doubted whether a Karajan style authority figure would be tolerated. In terms of the music created however he suggested that the new style of working, whilst 'easier', maybe wouldn't produce quite the highs of musical achievement that the old style could achieve.
I don't think that means you have to be a bastard to everyone, but having a professional and not personal relationship with the orchestra, can make it easier to push them to achieve certain goals. It's an interesting idea - musically, it's better to have total respect than a friendship with your orchestra.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 2, 2016 12:47:38 GMT
I'm going to try watching it tonight. I like his Bruckner but I've rarely seen eye to eye with his Beethoven (except his first recording of the 9th). I was given a vinyl box set of the Beethoven that I haven't worked my way through yet. Supposedly one of the recordings of LVB to own . |
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Post by MartinT on Jun 2, 2016 13:23:17 GMT
Which Beethoven cycle are they, Jules? I think he made three.
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Post by MartinT on Jun 2, 2016 13:30:57 GMT
Damn - missed it. It's gone from iPlayer.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 3, 2016 10:13:38 GMT
That's a shame that Martin. I'm sure you would enjoy it... I expect it will be repeated sometime soon...
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Post by MartinT on Jun 3, 2016 11:57:15 GMT
I'll keep a look out for it.
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Post by julesd68 on Jun 6, 2016 18:57:41 GMT
Here's a programme that I missed the first episode of and certainly looks worth a look - Revolution and Romance: Musical Masters of the 19th Century www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07d9rwvThe first episode is on iplayer and second episode is broadcast tomorrow evening. |
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