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Post by ChrisB on May 5, 2016 17:25:52 GMT
Gosh, the end of an era for you John. Well, they've given you a lot of pleasure and no doubt paid for themselves several times over in that respect.
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Post by John on May 5, 2016 17:27:33 GMT
I agree I got well attached to them over the years
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Post by John on May 5, 2016 17:29:13 GMT
Hope the new ones give you what you want, John. What I heard was just stunning Martin |
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Post by John on May 15, 2016 20:23:39 GMT
Here a sneak picture of the back of my new speakers  |
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Post by John on May 16, 2016 20:16:38 GMT
Well they did not work as well in standard set up but get the bass firing towrds the wall and the bass has its speed again. So here what they look like now  I think I call them Son of a Beast I let you know what they finally sound like in my system which be a few days yet |
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Post by John on May 20, 2016 20:17:24 GMT
Well finally plugged into the system
Took awhile to get the bass dialed in how I like it but you could hear its potential right away
It has a lot of punch compared to the Hawthornes more detail and a wider sound stage
These are fantastic speakers right away
For me to make such a leap I have to be pretty sure where I am heading I have that same grin I had when I heard Vic new build and released I had to get this for myself
Started out with Dhafer Youseff now listening to Dream Theater and just love what I am hearing They bring out detial and the attack is just awesome
Now what to do with my avatar?
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Post by John on May 20, 2016 21:21:47 GMT
I think one of the advantages is having the PRV as a full range driver they cut of around 150 which means they are not trying to produce bass and no crossover getting in the way of the sound at present the bass is coming in around 220 with a 18db cut off (butterworth) from the Behringer Inuke. Everything is set flat but will play more with the bass later
When it comes to sound I am fussy old bugger and have had the Hawthornes for years I did not think I ever consider changing them but SQ first
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Post by MartinT on May 20, 2016 22:13:09 GMT
New avatar present and correct! Well done for making a real jump in SQ in the transition, John.
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Post by John on May 21, 2016 8:16:52 GMT
Yes as you know the last speakers were pretty fast and had amazing mid bass. This has kept that fantastic mid bass but given me that same openness and drive across the frequency range a very addictive listen
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Post by ChrisB on May 21, 2016 8:46:03 GMT
Good news.
I have to say though that they look a bit lìke massive steam punk bras!
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Post by John on May 21, 2016 10:46:17 GMT
Yes they not pretty but SQ first
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Post by ChrisB on May 21, 2016 12:00:10 GMT
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Post by John on May 21, 2016 19:11:44 GMT
Still dialling in the bass, having 2 bass drivers gives a lot more slam
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Post by John on May 23, 2016 6:52:40 GMT
I might be changing my baffles I just be speaking to Vic having the PRV in free air takes it even further, its scary to think but I will take this to wherever it needs to go
Hard to believe the sound could get better
It be another week before I can hear this for myself and will update but very exciting times
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Post by jono on May 23, 2016 22:48:14 GMT
I have built several open baffle speakers.
The 15 inch woofers out of the old Realistic Mach 1 speakers work very well on a smallish open baffle.
I have used them with both an Edgar midrange horn and ESS AMT tweeters.
You can cross them over quite high up-say up to 1500 Hz as they have a nice midrange.
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Post by John on May 24, 2016 4:12:23 GMT
Be nice to see some of your designs
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Post by Sovereign on May 25, 2016 15:20:44 GMT
Yes definitely as John said it would be great to see your builds if you have any pictures of them
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Post by John on Jun 3, 2016 20:14:51 GMT
I taken this to more extremes
It seems like the PRV drivers benefit from being free standing so had the top chopped off and bass drivers whilst still open baffle have a push pull arrangement
Biggest change is mid and treble even more detail and just a very expansive sound stage It just picks up subtle micro detail and makes everything musical Sound just explodes but does not suffer any fatigue.
Bass has a bit more punch. It does seem to effect the speed
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 3, 2016 20:28:30 GMT
John, this design is getting very close to something you and I discussed the possibility of years ago!
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Post by John on Jun 4, 2016 3:35:18 GMT
Yes i remember funny how things go
Its a very minimal design now but has great sense of scale
It all seems a bit counter intuitive. A few months ago I would of not even considered this
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