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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 21:37:44 GMT
Easily the best Dire Straits album in virtually all respects. 10/10 easy!
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 3, 2016 8:19:27 GMT
Interesting mix of votes. I remember hearing it when it first came out and thinking I *should* like this. Found it ordinary then and now
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Post by MartinT on Mar 3, 2016 9:15:50 GMT
Fascinating. I have always found the musicianship *extra*ordinary.
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Post by Slinger on Mar 3, 2016 13:18:45 GMT
Fascinating. I have always found the musicianship *extra*ordinary. +1 but I think that for some people they come across as a bit too slick, and I've even heard the word "sterile" used to describe them. I heartily disagree of course. Knopfler is the mutt's nuts.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 3, 2016 13:31:59 GMT
Considering the music I really like I should like this, so colour me confused
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Post by MartinT on Mar 3, 2016 13:44:22 GMT
They couldn't be further from sterile. Having seen Knopfler recently, he clearly adores what he does and is a consummate music maker.
Oh, and his performance of Telegraph Road was magnificent, one of the best gig moments I've ever experienced.
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Post by MikeMusic on Mar 3, 2016 13:46:59 GMT
Giving it a go ..... <later>
It's ok. Pleasant enough. Wouldn't buy it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 17:28:35 GMT
Ignored my copy for years until the Pallas pressed reissues came out. Certainly some fine tracks but still rather pales after the first album. Also much prefered the follow up, Making Movies. If 'Dire Straits' and 'Love Over Gold' are 10/10 for me this can only be an 8, with Making Movies and Brother In Arms a 9. It's great it's Dire Straits but near the bottom of their output quality wise.
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Post by Sovereign on Mar 3, 2016 20:39:50 GMT
I kind of grew up on DS. Shared a room with my brother who was 9 years my senior. He played both the acoustic and electric guitar. Most of what he played was DS, I would often go to sleep with him sitting on his bed playing his accoustic guitar, he would practice and practice. I never minded at all. DR sterile, you've got to be kidding me. Their talent is effortless, powerful and expressive.
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Post by Greg on Mar 6, 2016 20:12:53 GMT
It's not the music that can be considered sterile, it was their on stage performance which was so polished, it was boring. No room for any innovation. I saw them at Birmingham NEC around the time Love over Gold was released. Great music but such a boring stage show. The only time it got exciting was when the keyboard player was taking the lead and was dancing a bit with his rig and the lead fell out the back. Lead guitarist jumped in and took over to save his embarrassment.
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Post by speedysteve on Mar 7, 2016 22:20:22 GMT
"And my conductress on the number nineteen She was a honey Pink toenails and hands all dirty with money"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 6:57:04 GMT
9/10 for me. It's an album I didn't know too well as of a couple of years ago, but bought the 180g pressing and I agree that the quality is superb. I took this along to a "bake off" where it went down really well with the attendees.
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Post by AlanS on Mar 8, 2016 10:32:37 GMT
Thanks to the iniital novelty of Sultans care of John Peel I didn't avidly follow them.
This was my first listening. Guess samey is the reaction, only the last track seemed different. Very competently played and recorded but not moreish Knopflers singing style is limited, sort of half speaking
Shall not rush to listen again. 7
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Post by julesd68 on Mar 8, 2016 16:27:07 GMT
I've given it 6/10.
I expected to really dislike this, based on the 1980's Dire Straits I know - 'Walk of Life' and other such dreck ... I liked the gentle pace of this album and it doesn't try hard to be 'commercial' but not something I would buy to be honest!
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Post by SteveC on Mar 10, 2016 16:28:47 GMT
Agreed! An excellent album and follow up to their debut. I recall Chris Frankland raving about "Sultans of Swing" in the pages of Hi Fi Answers in the late seventies.
This was before the debut album really caught on and I was lucky enough to see the band in concert, in November 1980 at Lancaster University. They had just released "Making Movies" and were world famous by that time!
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Post by AlanS on Mar 23, 2016 0:59:34 GMT
Having been under impressed with this I have been listening to their other albums via spotify and later albums seem more varied and enjoyable. Hey ho
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Post by speedysteve on Mar 23, 2016 18:45:31 GMT
Having been under impressed with this I have been listening to their other albums via spotify and later albums seem more varied and enjoyable. Hey ho Yeah each to the own. The latter more commercial sound is tough for me to listen to apart from a few choice tracks... Different drummer (Pick Withers was great on studio stuff of the first three albums), and keyboards sound kills it for me:)
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Post by MartinT on Mar 23, 2016 19:09:10 GMT
Agreed about Pick Withers, he really helped make their early sound a bit special.
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Post by ChrisB on Mar 26, 2016 0:29:40 GMT
I've played this album quite a few times over the last few weeks and I just don't click with it. It's pleasant enough but doesn't light my fire at all. I went for a 4 out of 10
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Post by Stratmangler on Mar 26, 2016 1:15:03 GMT
I've played this album quite a few times over the last few weeks and I just don't click with it. It's pleasant enough but doesn't light my fire at all. I went for a 4 out of 10 Whilst I accept what you say, your comments are out of context by nearly 40 years. The Pixies didn't appear for another 7 years following this album's release. I always viewed the album as the Dire Straits difficult 2nd album, a follow up, a MkII version of the 1st album, if you like, and the song writing doesn't break any precedents. It was well received at the time, largely because it flew in the face of what else was around in that post punk time. Musicianship was once again cool. I like the album. I give it 7 out of 10.
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