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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 20:40:21 GMT
We do the Tom and Barbara bit out here. All our own fruit, veg and salad plus ducks and chickens for eggs and meat. We have been renewing our flock of late and the little ones have just started laying. I feel like saying, along the lines of Dundee "that's not a brown egg....THIS is a brown egg" You should see the yolks too, so bright and almost orange rather than yellow. Yummee  The others are a bit normal looking but the yolks are the same. I always remember the supermarket eggs in the UK having washed out yolks and no flavour. I could go on about the flavour of fresh grown food but I go on enough about most stuff so will desist. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 1, 2014 21:04:53 GMT
Nice! I remember the fresh market eggs in France, yummy as you say.
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Post by ChrisB on Jul 1, 2014 21:21:55 GMT
Ours come from a farm just up the road - can't bear the tasteless things they pass off as eggs in the supermarkets.
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Post by pinkie on Jul 2, 2014 5:15:15 GMT
We used to keep chickens here, and ducks. There is no substitute for eggs "fresh from the chickens bottom" as my daughter rachel used to put it. However we were always in surplus and I am clearly a lousy trader, so I used to eat a lot of egg. Now - with high cholesterol, I am afraid that, one egg is un ouef!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 5:41:50 GMT
We used to keep chickens here, and ducks. There is no substitute for eggs "fresh from the chickens bottom" as my daughter rachel used to put it. However we were always in surplus and I am clearly a lousy trader, so I used to eat a lot of egg. Now - with high cholesterol, I am afraid that, one egg is un ouef! Well well, a sense of humour too  Very punny. Keep eating the eggs, stuff the cholesterol measurements. Because Ronnie has some sort of pre-diabetic condition (the hexperts still can't agree  ) we have taken over her treatment and gone the high protein, high fat and low carbs route combined with gluten free. I still have the occasional gluten fix as I can't give up the sunday croissants but we both feel 100% better. I no longer have stomach problems and Ronnie has stopped having the regular blinding headaches she used to suffer. A friend of ours, who is definitely diabetic, has seen the results and joined us. His readings have almost reached normal. His 'hexpert' just says she doesn't understand it but keep on doing what you are doing. I'm sure there is no such thing as a universal solution but it makes sense to me to eat a diet that is based on the way humans developed. Ronnie is a moderator on a diabetes forum and its clear that the official line is way out of date and that many people are now self treating and it seems to be working for the vast majority. Sorry, can't remember if its Martin or Chris that is diabetic, what do you think about this? |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2014 6:23:23 GMT
It's me! I have tried various things but the Alternate Day diet definitely helps me feel better and lose weight. Regulating the meds is the tricky area, although I get very early warning if my sugar level is too low and generally my body is tolerant of me getting it a bit wrong. I try to keep the carbs down but I love good bread and it's my guilty indulgence.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 6:36:03 GMT
I try to keep the carbs down but I love good bread and it's my guilty indulgence. Yup, sure is difficult. We have two artisan bakers in our local high street and even the supermarket bread is not bad here. Apart from the croissants, the one thing I will never give up is garlic bread. I always laugh when you have the stuff in restaurants. Its like they have waved a clove at the bread from 50 paces. When I make it, I have to leave the outside doors to the kitchen open for a few hours. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 6:40:35 GMT
We used to keep chickens here, and ducks. There is no substitute for eggs "fresh from the chickens bottom" as my daughter rachel used to put it. However we were always in surplus and I am clearly a lousy trader, so I used to eat a lot of egg. Now - with high cholesterol, I am afraid that, one egg is un ouef! Ronnie has a little supply thing going. We have quite a queue at times. Lots of disappointment if we are out of eggs as, even here, supermarket eggs are not that great. Still, with the newbies coming on stream, the egg boxes are getting full. |
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Post by pinkie on Jul 2, 2014 6:53:02 GMT
I thought your name was Steadman not Atkins. He didn't do so well on it himself, a bit like Linus Pauling with Vit C, but credit to them for "walking the walk" Sue has asked me to remind you that I am the worlds greatest scrambled egg chef, and she only married me for my scrambled egg making. (She's not kidding about the "only married for" bit either). I could tell you my secret, but then I'd have to kill you  She wants us to open a little "Best of British" cafe (not really I hope) - modelled on a fabulous tiny restaurant in Esperaza, run by husband and wife in a room the size of my lounge (and a fair bit of spread onto the road - the road, mind, not the pavement). My scrambled eggs would be a featured dish  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 7:18:20 GMT
I thought your name was Steadman not Atkins. He didn't do so well on it himself, a bit like Linus Pauling with Vit C, but credit to them for "walking the walk" Sue has asked me to remind you that I am the worlds greatest scrambled egg chef, and she only married me for my scrambled egg making. (She's not kidding about the "only married for" bit either). I could tell you my secret, but then I'd have to kill you She wants us to open a little "Best of British" cafe (not really I hope) - modelled on a fabulous tiny restaurant in Esperaza, run by husband and wife in a room the size of my lounge (and a fair bit of spread onto the road - the road, mind, not the pavement). My scrambled eggs would be a featured dish Atkins died after a fall.  Not the same diet though. You have a rival. We will have to have a ......scramble off when you are here. Whisks or forks at ten paces. You in the blue corner and Ronnie in the red. |
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Post by Barry on Jul 2, 2014 16:42:57 GMT
We used to keep chickens here, and ducks. There is no substitute for eggs "fresh from the chickens bottom" as my daughter rachel used to put it. However we were always in surplus and I am clearly a lousy trader, so I used to eat a lot of egg. Now - with high cholesterol, I am afraid that, one egg is un ouef! Well well, a sense of humour too Very punny. Keep eating the eggs, stuff the cholesterol measurements. Because Ronnie has some sort of pre-diabetic condition (the hexperts still can't agree ) we have taken over her treatment and gone the high protein, high fat and low carbs route combined with gluten free. I still have the occasional gluten fix as I can't give up the sunday croissants but we both feel 100% better. I no longer have stomach problems and Ronnie has stopped having the regular blinding headaches she used to suffer. A friend of ours, who is definitely diabetic, has seen the results and joined us. His readings have almost reached normal. His 'hexpert' just says she doesn't understand it but keep on doing what you are doing. I'm sure there is no such thing as a universal solution but it makes sense to me to eat a diet that is based on the way humans developed. Ronnie is a moderator on a diabetes forum and its clear that the official line is way out of date and that many people are now self treating and it seems to be working for the vast majority. Sorry, can't remember if its Martin or Chris that is diabetic, what do you think about this? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 16:50:26 GMT
Hi Barry, Thanks for quoting us but I'm sure you had something extremely interesting to add!!  |
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Post by Barry on Jul 2, 2014 17:11:51 GMT
I am Type II diabetic, but I can manage it through my diet and by generally taking care with what I eat.
Obviously I avoid sugar: none in tea and coffee and I don't eat sweets. The high fat/low fat argument is often misleading: fats are carbohydrates just as sugars and starches are. Fats are acceptable as long as you avoid sturated fat: cheese, full-fat milk, pastry etc. Unsaturated fats are OK, so too is Geek-style yoghurt; though I use fat-free yoghurt.
For me the best form of carbohydrate are the starches: wholewheat pasta, potato, bread (but try to avoid white bread; wholemeal and granary are fine) and brown rice. I think it's something to do with the glycaemic index.
The most difficult foodstuffs for me to avoid are cheese and pastry. I love cheese and I love pastry, croissants, pies and mousses, though I am allowed the occasional treat (Phew!).
Whilst I don't have any problem with my cholesterol, I do now eat a lot more fish and chicken than I used to. And I still eat a lot of eggs.
I eat and enjoy plenty of vegetables and fruit. Both are fresh; I visit my local greengrocer every other day, and NO tinned food.
So not a general panacea, but it works for me: my doctor was so impressed he said "Whatever it is you are doing it works, so stick with it".
The results of my last blood test were HbA1c = 37.7 (a measure of the blood sugar) and cholesterol = 3.0 .
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Post by Barry on Jul 2, 2014 17:15:49 GMT
Hi Barry, Thanks for quoting us but I'm sure you had something extremely interesting to add!! Gordon - I'm still trying to work out how to reply to Quotes. Think I might have cracked it now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 17:18:06 GMT
It is surprising that people react in so many different ways to diet. Whatever works for you seems to be a sensible mantra. Glad its working for you. Thoroughly broke the no gluten rule at lunchtime. Had food with friends, salmon steaks, new spuds and salad but with such crusty delicious bread attached that I just had to stuff my face. Huge amount of salty butter to help it down. Ronnie gave me that "you are so weak" expression and I just grinned straight back at her and had another glass as well Forgot to mention the obscene amount of cheese I put down too. The Camembert was so perfect, dripping out of the wrapper, how could I resist? |
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Post by pinkie on Jul 2, 2014 17:24:06 GMT
Sorry - I thought I'd try for the prize for the most grotesque and unacceptable thread drift
Barry - your avatar. Do you listen to your Quads "au naturel" like that or do you have stands. I know Gordon has his on stands, and Alan hangs them from the ceiling. I have just never got on with them on the floor, and Sues only exposure to the speakers, where she heard 63's (which she loved) and 57's which, after the 63's failed to cut the mustard. Both were au naturel -on the carpet. I was surprised the 63's performed, because I have only ever listened to them on stands before. (A repainted kitchen and big ugly Lowthers has caused her to authorise Electrostatics in the room. I need to decide which, because, much as I'd love em, I think in this house, stacked 57's would be taking the p***). I might experiment with both, since I can borrow Andrew Jones pair (probably for ever since he has been in America for over 10 years and shows no sign of coming back) and plan to pick up a pair of 63's on stands
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 17:51:23 GMT
Sorry - I thought I'd try for the prize for the most grotesque and unacceptable thread drift Barry - your avatar. Do you listen to your Quads "au naturel" like that or do you have stands. I know Gordon has his on stands, and Alan hangs them from the ceiling. I have just never got on with them on the floor, and Sues only exposure to the speakers, where she heard 63's (which she loved) and 57's which, after the 63's failed to cut the mustard. Both were au naturel -on the carpet. I was surprised the 63's performed, because I have only ever listened to them on stands before. (A repainted kitchen and big ugly Lowthers has caused her to authorise Electrostatics in the room. I need to decide which, because, much as I'd love em, I think in this house, stacked 57's would be taking the p***). I might experiment with both, since I can borrow Andrew Jones pair (probably for ever since he has been in America for over 10 years and shows no sign of coming back) and plan to pick up a pair of 63's on stands You will of course be able to hear them on stands in a month or so. It made a considerable difference getting the 57s a foot off the floor. I know a chap who could knock up a suitable pair of stands at fairly short notice!! Both Alan and I use a sub too but they need very careful integration to sound right. I'm sure a man of your calibre............. |
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Post by Barry on Jul 2, 2014 18:07:50 GMT
Yes - I use my Quad 57s as they were designed: on the floor, not on stands.
However I ought to point out that when the quads were designed in 1955 (and not 1957 as erroneously and commonly stated), people sat in chairs that were higher than they are now. Modern chairs are lower, so the treble output from the Quads can fire 'over the litener's head'. To get around this I tilt the Quads forward slightly by raising the back foot, but you have to careful otherwise the speakers might fall on their face.
It is also important the floor the speakers sit on is carpeted, otherwise there may be interference with(unwanted)reflections from the hard floor surface.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 18:12:36 GMT
Yes - I use my Quad 57s as they were designed: on the floor, not on stands. However I ought to point out that when the quads were designed in 1955 (and not 1957 as erroneously and commonly stated), people sat in chairs that were higher than they are now. Modern chairs are lower, so the treble output from the Quads can fire 'over the litener's head'. To get around this I tilt the Quads forward slightly by raising the back foot, but you have to careful otherwise the speakers might fall on their face. It is also important the floor the speakers sit on is carpeted, otherwise there may be interference with(unwanted)reflections from the hard floor surface. Yup, agree with the tilting bit. Mine are vertical and point straight at the very low listening chair. Edit: The stands are screwed to the underside of the Quads which makes them rock solid and avoids any likelihood of tipping over. |
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Post by MartinT on Jul 2, 2014 20:10:51 GMT
The results of my last blood test were HbA1c = 37.7 (a measure of the blood sugar) and cholesterol = 3.0 . I was about to scream WHAT? And then I realised you were quoting in mmol not %.
My HbA1c readings are consistently 7-8% which might sound a little high but any lower and I get light headed and feel a potential hypo coming on (never actually had one). Each person's body finds a slightly different level. As it is, Novomix 30 keeps me good and balanced as long as I eat carefully.
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Very punny.
) we have taken over her treatment and gone the high protein, high fat and low carbs route combined with gluten free. I still have the occasional gluten fix as I can't give up the sunday croissants but we both feel 100% better. I no longer have stomach problems and Ronnie has stopped having the regular blinding headaches she used to suffer.
Not the same diet though.
