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Post by Barrington on Jan 18, 2016 12:38:42 GMT
Err Neros of course , there was a program on this and Neros was the chosen place by nerdy , geeky , gadget loving men .
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Post by MartinT on Jan 18, 2016 12:57:27 GMT
The whole bean coffee I buy is £2.99 a bag, often 2 for £5.00. I can get 16 cups from one bag, so not including the water and heat to boil it (I'm black, no sugar), that's under 19p a cup and I don't have to sit in a s***hole full of zombies glued to their smart-phones and computers I'm with you about absolute quality, Tim, but I think you may be missing the point. I know you would welcome me with a great cup of coffee if I called by, but unless I'm mistaken you aren't at Waterloo station or Membury services or on many high streets! The thing is, I like to stop when I feel like a coffee and enjoy something reasonably good. That's much easier to do than it was even just 10 years ago, let alone 20. I often do it alone so rather than stare into space I read the news or even, goodness me, TAS, on my phone. I therefore require wi-fi with my decent tasting coffee in a nice environment. QED!
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Post by Tim on Jan 18, 2016 13:09:53 GMT
I used to use them many years ago Martin, but since I started brewing my own from fresh beans I realise how shite they taste and just won't waste my money on them. I had a grinder at work with an AeroP, so I would wait till I got there, anywhere else wait till I get home or if I'm travelling I have that covered too The last time I used those two twatting companies was a Starbucks in the US. I took the first cup back as it wasn't hot enough and frankly tasted rubbish, my surly server made me another one, which was marginally better, I took a few sips before I threw it away. I vowed then never again. Trouble is when you get used to a quality tasting coffee, it's very hard to go back to shite and they are IMHO both over priced shite. /rant[3] haha.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jan 18, 2016 13:15:00 GMT
Was surprised how good Costa was
Never been in Starbucks
Not a big coffee punter
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 18, 2016 13:29:40 GMT
Thanks for the grinder tip Tim. I actually have 2 aeropresses - one for work and another we use at home for making a good but quick cup during the first thing rush around in the mornings before work. We take one with us when we travel but up to now we have just bought a sachet of grinds when we get there. I type this while sitting in a Burger King with a cup of so-called coffee! Only here for the wifi!
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Post by Sovereign on Jan 18, 2016 13:31:34 GMT
I often use coffee shops as an event in itself. I do often prefer home brewed coffee, but my wife and I often go into town for a coffee as a social entity. Then sometimes stroll around the shops. I do get frustrated though if the coffee is too weak of thin tasting. I voted Costa but out of the chains Nerro is my preference or Pret a Manger even better.
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Post by Tim on Jan 18, 2016 13:38:04 GMT
Pret a Manger even better. Yes, their coffee isn't bad for a chain, certainly ahead of the two being discussed here. Didn't realise we had so many coffee drinkers in this forum
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:47:08 GMT
I buy coffee beans in 1kg bags, significantly cheaper compared to the normal c200g bags you get in the supermarket. I use a normal electric spice grinder and a stove top percolator. And a genuine Thermos is worth the £30 to prevent drips and to keep it really hot all day.... All that works out at a few pence per cup compared to the £2 or so in a coffee shop.
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Post by Tim on Jan 18, 2016 14:07:00 GMT
Thanks for the grinder tip Tim. I actually have 2 aeropresses - one for work and another we use at home for making a good but quick cup during the first thing rush around in the mornings before work. We take one with us when we travel but up to now we have just bought a sachet of grinds when we get there. I type this while sitting in a Burger King with a cup of so-called coffee! Only here for the wifi! Do you have a 'coffee recipe' as such Chris, or is it guess work and chuck it all in? I am as you may have gathered discerning or as my mate calls me, a fussy bugger. I use 14g beans to 200g water, freshly boiled filtered water, stand time 2 minutes before pouring over the grinds which are ground medium fine (between espresso and moka pot grind I guess), then 1 minute brew time in the AeroP. Delicious and tastes the same every single time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 15:11:37 GMT
Although I can only drink decaffeinated coffee these days, I still prefer Costa by miles over Starbucks. Like Martin, I also find their premises generally a bit tacky and also there coffee IMHO is down right nasty… It is bitter without any flavour and their decaf is a nightmare, think I'd prefer to drink tar!
Costa on the other hand do one of the best decaf Coffee's about and I like a good Latte.
Prior to becoming unwell I used to love their Flat White coffee, but that doesn't work in the decaf variety unfortunately, and again the Starbucks equivalent, well isn't equivalent it is bitter nasty and tasteless.
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 18, 2016 19:17:43 GMT
Prior to reading how you do it, I would have said I was somewhere between the two really Tim, but now I know exactly what you do, I'd say that you would put me in the 'chuck it all in' camp!
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Post by Tim on Jan 18, 2016 20:00:47 GMT
Haha, yup that sounds a much better idea, I'm a right fuss arse when it comes to coffee
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Post by MartinT on Jan 18, 2016 21:49:02 GMT
So, back to where to go when you want a coffee AWAY FROM HOME!!!!!
/rant[4] 'kin 'ell!
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Post by Pinch on Jan 18, 2016 22:06:00 GMT
I'd probably opt for Costa over Starbucks if I could only choose between the two, but there's plenty of nice independent places around here that I'd rather go to, since they tend to have a much better selection of teas and cakes, and atmosphere. The pastry at Costa is consistently awful, though I am partial to their chocolate tiffin. I was in Japan not long ago and used Starbucks a fair bit since they were ubiquitous and convenient, and discovered that they do a very serviceable chocolate chip scone - not seen these over here though.
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Post by Tim on Jan 18, 2016 23:04:15 GMT
So, back to where to go when you want a coffee AWAY FROM HOME!!!!! /rant[4] 'kin 'ell! Ah, that's no fun Martin, this is an enjoyable thread. Simple answer, these days I would look for an independent or go without, I wouldn't use either of these - there you go
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 18, 2016 23:57:02 GMT
So, back to where to go when you want a coffee AWAY FROM HOME!!!!! /rant[4] 'kin 'ell! Captain Crema enters the telephone booth and casually reaches into one of the pouches on his recently buffed coffee utility belt and removes a 27 function Swiss Army coffee preparation knife which has only just received the second of its twice daily honing sessions, returning it to perfect razor sharpness. He selects the kindling blade and swiftly shaves an impressive pile of fire starting material from the always ready, perfectly prepared Farxinus excelsior twigs. Arrogantly flicking the exquisitely mounted flint of ignition against its stainless steel striker, he deftly lobs a stream of sparks into the eagerly awaiting fuel and, before the last pinprick of combustibility nestles into the already promisingly perky flame, he has the main fuel preparation blade of the knife opened and begins chopping precisely the correct quantity of fuel necessary to bring the water to the exact temperature required for the espresso of all his fantasies. This is placed with nonchalant precision onto the now cheeky but efficient blaze. The freshly harvested spring water, now lapping the sides of the Kettle of Perfection, is soon beginning to display those perfect fish-eye bubbles, seeming teasingly reluctant to transform into that much sought after boiling state. Taste buds afire with anticipation, Crema begins the vital grind. Holding aloft the newly micronised, yet irresistibly aromatic beans, he utters the Coffee Yodel, bringing terror to the hearts of all upstart barristas within a geographical radius of literally one single, perfectly measured metric metre. The grind is transferred to the Aeropress with a feverish smile and a tremble of the lips. Almost at the height of ecstasy now, Captain Crema hides his masked face behind his cape, lest he succumb to the temptation during that final endless minute of the brew. Finally, the time comes to commit to the big plunge and, lacing his perfectly manicured hands together he places them atop the device and applies the precise amount of pressure required to ease the brew of destiny into the chalice of enlightenment. .....or something like that, eh Tim?
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Post by MartinT on Jan 19, 2016 6:39:12 GMT
Ah, that's no fun Martin, this is an enjoyable thread. Tee hee, don't let me stop you. Was just responding in kind
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Post by MartinT on Jan 19, 2016 6:48:37 GMT
For good coffee at work (where the replacement coffee machine is better than its predecessor but still dispenses overspill tarmac from the M3 roadworks), and where I only have a kettle in my office (before Tim starts recommending £800 worth of professional kit), I have found one better than Kenco Millicano. It's Nescafe Azera and it's bloody nice for an instant:
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 19, 2016 8:18:02 GMT
Starcrap = warm dishwater American take on coffee pretty sure goats piss has more flavor + 1 I've not tried Starbucks in so many years now - it always tasted more like warmed up milk than proper coffee. Costa is tolerable but much prefer Cafe Nero if there's no better option. We have a number of very good independants - Coffee Circus in Crouch End take a bow. Lots of Costas are looking very tired now though and in need of refurb - probably the staff do too, as most often they look bored and uninterested ... I wouldn't be excited to work there either though.
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Post by Tim on Jan 19, 2016 8:41:22 GMT
£800 of kit? Not for tight wads, Aeropress 20 quid, secondhand Zassehaus grinder from ebay, 15 quid, travel grinder 30 quid, kettle The elbow grease for hand grinding is free. If you buy coffee out often Martin, you'll spend much more than me on it I've tried that Milicano and Azera stuff and make no comment for fear I'll offend. Now, where's my cape gone
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