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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 1:25:06 GMT
I mentioned my Braun deck in the 'Good Turntable Design' thread so thought I'd post a pic. Tomorrow(ish) I might post a photo of the bit of string...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 4:51:49 GMT
A nice Braun 'CSV60' amp/'LE-1' stats & your cooking..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 12:17:07 GMT
A nice Braun 'CSV60' amp/'LE-1' stats & your cooking.. Actually use to quite fancy the CV300 for a better visual match:  If I still had the penthouse overlooking the Thames would get the Braun electrostats too  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 15:48:51 GMT
The old Armstrong '500' series amp would match too.
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Post by MartinT on Jan 9, 2016 15:51:42 GMT
That Braun amp looks rather yummy. I see there's a matching tuner, too.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 17:08:37 GMT
There was lots with the similar Aesthetics.. 'CSV500/510 etc
My all time fav Braun products were the superb 'TG-60' Reel to reel, 'PCS 5' Turntable 'CV-300' Amp.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 17:41:35 GMT
There was lots with the similar Aesthetics.. 'CSV500/510 etc My all time fav Braun products were the superb 'TG-60' Reel to reel, 'PCS 5' Turntable 'CV-300' Amp. i had a TG-60 back in the 80s - it was OK and made good recordings but unfortunately the 'rewind' brake didn't work very well once the machine was warmed up, resulting in unwanted tape spaghetti  In the end I sold it on to a 'retro' design shop selling to people more interested in looks than function. It certainly was a looker though:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 0:56:28 GMT
... back to the deck  I think I mentioned the bit of string in the first post ... this photo of the internal gubbins show the clean pair of Achilles heels at the heart of this solid piece of German engineering:  The first is the length of string near the bottom of the picture - this is the linkage that come into play when you slide the 'On' lever. being basically waxed twine it suffers stress and breaks where it make the right angle turn (via a wire hook). I repaired it once about 20 years ago by simply knotting a short length in to bridge the gap but it broke again last year so I went all 'belt and braces' and ran a new length from the switch cam on the left up to the first linkage (where it turns darker on the right). The second problem relates to the suspension which is achieved by a combination of springs and hydraulic dampers - more on that later..... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 1:05:09 GMT
Fine piece of engineering indeed. I have to say that Braun amp really looks beautiful. I've never seen one before, so it's really nice to be introduced to something new.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 1:39:17 GMT
Fine piece of engineering indeed. I have to say that Braun amp really looks beautiful. I've never seen one before, so it's really nice to be introduced to something new. The brains behind Braun audio systems and styling in the 60s was Dieter Rams, who was a Bauhaus trained designer and is something of a legend in industrial design for domestic products (including lighters and a superb shelving system) Rams was also the inspiration behind the rebirth of Apple in the new millennium both for their machines and the look of their OS related products - Jonathan Ives has fully acknowledged his debt to Rams on that score. |
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Post by julesd68 on Jan 10, 2016 3:06:03 GMT
Fine piece of engineering indeed. I have to say that Braun amp really looks beautiful. I've never seen one before, so it's really nice to be introduced to something new. A first for me too.. Gorgeous design. I wonder if it sounds as good as it looks - anyone heard one? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 12:12:58 GMT
Just as a sideline: At the end of the day you cannot pull a Vintage machine down that old before it is fully serviced. This is a really really annoying aspect with people for me. I used to recommend vintage Equipment, they would go out buy it & claim it sounded crap, unrelable, etc "last time i listern to you it broke down & all that crap" people have even stop conversing with me over it.. VINTAGE GEAR NEEDS FULLY SERVICING OR DON'T BOTHER IS THE MESSAGE Also vintage gear is not an access point to get something cheap & well built, You will most times get the well built but im afraid on top of the price you paid for the item you are now faced with service/Rebuilding cost which can be mighty high in some respects. My Ferrograph 'F307' amp cost me near on £1000 for a complete rebuild & that was all my own work. Hence as for moaning about the Braun string, something that should have been sorted in service imho. Much as I understand where you are coming from with that little rant I need to correct you on a few things. I didn't buy this deck yesterday - I have had this deck for over 30 years and its its a testament to it's quality that the only significant thing to have broken is the string I mentioned. I DIDN'T 'MOAN' ABOUT IT - I FIXED IT Equally I have never claimed that it sounds 'crap' or 'unreliable' - quite the opposite, it's a wonderful deck and delivers a great sound from the equally old Shure M75 cartridge. If you know of a reputable service centre that can handle the intricacies of a 40+ year old German design (particularly the in and outs of the hydraulics dampers) by all means post details here - but otherwise I would appreciate it if you can save the rants for somewhere else where it might be appropriate, I am not interested. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 15:02:48 GMT
Guys - much as I appreciate your concern I am not seeking advice on this. The deck is working just fine and is likely to continue doing so for the time I have left on this spinning orb. I also have some experience in dealing with a range of vintage stuff but this thread is not really about the trials and tribulations of such or the necessity or otherwise of regular service schedules and the like. I think a thread about the perils and pitfalls of buying legacy equipment would be a great asset here - perhaps either of you could start one and share your undoubtably valuable knowledge and experience |
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Post by ChrisB on Jan 10, 2016 15:13:35 GMT
I think a thread about the perils and pitfalls of buying legacy equipment would be a great asset here - perhaps either of you could start one and share your undoubtably valuable knowledge and experience :) There is one and the sort of stuff posted above would be welcomed there. Tips and Tricks for the HiFi Virgin - Buying Vintage Gear
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 15:57:36 GMT
EDIT: Those two posts have now been moved there. ... thanks for that Chris |
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In the end I sold it on to a 'retro' design shop selling to people more interested in looks than function. 
